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11-19-2008, 01:36 PM
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Have you dumped your bike?
I just read a post where someone stated they’ve dumped a bike five times, and it got me wondering how often has this happened to others?
For me I’m 44 and have ridden street and dirt for 30 years and have hit the ground only twice on the street… dirt doesn’t count it’d be a book if it did.
First, I slipped on a residential street going supper slow on water; tires came right out from under me, landed in gutter water.
Secondly, I was coming out of a gated community and some joker was speeding on the wrong side of the road and pushed me over the curb into trees and bushes, not very fun.
My father said it's not a matter of if you dump it, it’s a matter of when you dump it. But riding safely you can control the number of times you actually dump.
To me five times seems excessive.
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11-19-2008, 01:43 PM
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Of course I've dumped my bike and yes, many, many times in the dirt. I lost it on snowpack (the bike slid under a parked car), on sand used for traction in snow (but the snow had melted and I slipped in the remaining sand), and on some extremely smooth concrete with a touch of water on it.
Is five times excessive? I don't think so. I think we all like to push the envelope occasionally. I don't ride on snow anymore (there isn't any here), but there are lots and lots of stupid cagers. It WILL happen again.
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11-19-2008, 01:51 PM
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Not while riding, but 9 years ago I was leaving my girlfriends house (wife now), and rolled my 1 week old GSXR out of her yard at 5 in the morning. Turned around to close the gate and for got to put down the stand.I woke the whole block up with my swear words.I learned from this, never be in a rush.
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11-19-2008, 01:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ramble59
...My father said it's not a matter of if you dump it, it’s a matter of when you dump it. But riding safely you can control the number of times you actually dump.
To me five times seems excessive.
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I haven't crashed (dumped) in over 30 years but when I was younger I frequently crashed. How often you go down depends on how fast you ride and how far you push your limits. When I was a kid I often street raced for money and I seldom lost. You don't learn unless you crash. I stopped counting at 35...
Many years ago I had a crashed helmet collection until my wife made me get rid of them. I kept 7 bashed and scraped helmets on a shelf above our back door and used them to remind me when going out on my motorcycle.
Helps you to remember to focus...
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11-19-2008, 01:58 PM
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I'm 43, and going through the memory banks, twice for me (and since I have been street riding since I was 18, I consider myself pretty fortunate).
Once, in my first year, a low-speed putdown that cost me full range of my right shoulder (operation), and more recently, parked a friend's Road Glide on its crash bars (and me on the street) in downtown LA. I hit a substance not condusive to traction rounding a corner.
I accept responsibility on both counts, and fortunately man and machine were not dinged up too badly. It could certainly happen again, but I just do my part and enjoy riding way too much.
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11-19-2008, 02:45 PM
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Indeed yes. Not badly fortunately.
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11-19-2008, 03:09 PM
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Ramble59, I'm pretty sure it was my post you read.
I forgot to mention that the 4 on my Daytona 675 were a combination of street and track. 2 were from the street. The first was from a Silverado truck coming into my lane on a blind corner, making me run off the road and hitting a curve indicator and sending me flying over the handlebars and landing in an embankment. The second was hitting a patch of sand in a center turn-lane entering my work's parking lot.
I have a friend whose crashed so many times on the track...and he's a very good rider; that I'm at the point of not counting "track" crashes. So in comparison to other posters on this thread that say they wont count dirt crashes, I'll count track crashes in a different category as non-inclusive of "street" crashes.
So to calculate...3 "street" crashes. The two mentioned above, and the most recent.
The saying is definitely true that its a matter of "when" and not "if" I ride so much and rarely drive, so my chances are higher despite the gained experience. I'm just thankful that all crashes (track and street) have been injury free...and I owe it all thanks to my gear. I am a firm believer of ATGATT and my 5 crashes prove it.
Last edited by tooblekain; 11-19-2008 at 03:15 PM.
Reason: added last paragraph
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11-19-2008, 04:12 PM
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I've crashed plenty of times in the dirt...never on the street.
Heck..I'm 50 and haven't crashed a car either.
I don't buy that "whole its a matter of when" line. There's plenty of us who are on the road daily and have not crashed. Its a matter of being aware of your surroundings and riding within your capabilities.
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Last edited by BigChiefWoody; 11-19-2008 at 04:16 PM.
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11-19-2008, 05:41 PM
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I reckon if you don't crash every now and agian you ain't riding fast enough.
Pete
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11-19-2008, 06:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by peterrose
I reckon if you don't crash every now and agian you ain't riding fast enough.
Pete
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Love it...reminds me of a quote from the movie Talladega Nights: "If you ain't first, you're last"
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