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Tbirdnz

Just read on a non Triumph site about a guy getting a blow-out when doing a 100km and just managing to save it, although he did end up on the wrong side of the road.

When he got the tyre off he found it was full of gunk ! tyre-pando, stuff you use to get you home slowly in the event of a puncture.

Seemingly it had been put in by the previous owner and either forgotten about or not mentioned to the new owner. It could have been a very nasty accident.

Other temporary tyre fixes are 'green slime' which is claimed to give you a more 'balanced' ride, far from it according to one guy who said it gave him an instant speed wobble.

Anyone any experience of either blowing a front tyre ? or using these temporary tyre 'fixes' ?

In all my years of biking blow-outs have only happened on moto-x bikes, never a road bike, so I can't claim any experience there.


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Outrunner

While on a camping trip in the north of Scotland last year I noticed a tiny screw in my rear tyre when oiling the chain at the end of the days running. Needless to say there were no garages/tyre shops for miles so I bought a tin of Holts Tyreweld from a nearby petrol station.

After following the instructions to the letter it did exactly what it said on the tin, although it is supposed to be a temporary repair I ran the last 2000 miles out of the tyre with no problems, it even kept it's pressure up from the day I fixed it!


Andy.

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88blkbird

Do a search on Slime.. there was a post in the last week or so regarding tire " flat repair " additives. Personally as much as Slime will fix the flat I wouldn't use it on my bike if I could avoid it.. it is fluid and will continually cause an imbalance problem.. another Gent mentioned a different but similar additive that supposedly would do a fine repair but cause no imbalance whatsoever..

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Gob-ny-geay

Sorry, I've never had a tire blow-out while riding, but have been told that the "Slime" stuff is strictly temporary, and the tire/wheel needs to be broken down ASAP afterwards to remove all the gunk, and permanently patch the tire properly.

Otherwise, wherever the "Slime" sets up, you would need to counter-balance the tire/wheel combination somehow.

That said, the "Slimey" stuff should be used only in dire emergency situations only, and removed at the first opportunity.

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88blkbird

Slime is water-based and never sets up, it should be removed as soon as possible because it will cause poor balance but it will not affect the ability of the tire to be repaired so there's no danger of causing damage to the tire if you can't get to it soon. solvents such as fix-a-flat are solvent based and will damage the lining of the tire leaving them unpatchable after awhile.

miker

No experience here with blow outs either, but with various methods of flat fixes.

The Slime type products that you install in the tyre when it's new to prevent flats are designed to be left in the tyre for the life of the tyre, the "stuff" doesn't set until it's forced through a puncture. If it's installed correctly, as in the correct volume for the size tyre, it shouldn't cause any imbalance problems (so I've been told by a car club friend who rides a Vincent Black Shadow).

The Finilec type products that you put in when you get a flat must be removed at the earliest opportunity and the puncture repaired properly, with a new tube or at least a patch in tubed tyres or a mushroom plug if it's tubeless.

For tubless tyres, I've ridden for many many miles and had no problems what so ever with Rope Plugs. Once I got a puncture in the rear tyre the day after I had it fitted new. Put a plug in it and it stayed there for the next 15,000km, along with two other plugs I had to put in at later stages.

No blow outs though, be a scary thing!

Mick

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Tbirdnz

My record for a rear tyre is 9000km and not much more from my front, my worse record is 4000km for a rear. You must be riding on better roads than I am Mick !

NZ country roads are sealed metal chip, with a surface like bastard files. (which is incidentally a correct term for that type of abrasive file !)


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miker

My record for a tyre is the 24,000km I got on the original Anakees with the Tiger. 22,000km of that was commuting on bumpy, but quite smooth surfaces and not much in the way of heavy cornering. I was then doing 47km each way every day, now I do 13km each way every day, so I think the Tourances might be with me for a while.

Mick

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Gob-ny-geay

Mick,

How so? If you inject something inside a tire, and it has mass/weight, how does it not cause an imbalance? Centifugal force may be a tempting answer, but if this stuff is loose in the tire, what happens at slower speeds, speed changes, turns, etc.

Not trying to be argumentive, just need to be convinced.

Now for the inevitable smart aleck remark - Does being a Vincent Black Shadow owner automatically make one an expert at Bikes? Or just wealthy enough to own a Vincent. Sorry, couldn't resist that one!

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88blkbird

Let me take a stab at this....some flat repair products line the inside of the tire are so viscous they don't move around easily, these would be prone to cause little if any imbalance problem. The problem is adding enough to fix the flat and not so much that you end up with excess that can more easily move around.

Personnaly I was introduced to Slime at a corporate manager's meeting just prior to it's introduction to the market place. The reason I say it is likely to cause imbalance issues is that is is not that viscous and it is likely to move around inside the tire. Not to say that it Must cause an imbalance problem, just that I feel it is highly probable. That being said, I think it is a very good product and I make sure there is a container of it in my wife's car at all times.