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Old 07-17-2008   #1 (permalink)
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Lane Splitting - Safe or not ?

Lane splitting is legal in NZ, it may not be in some other countries of even in different US states.

This basically is the NZ law: (Note: we drive/ride on the left)

It is OK to overtake on the RIGHT of a MOVING or STATIONARY vehicle within the same lane (unless it's indicating to turn right).

It is OK to overtake on the LEFT of a STATIONARY vehicle within the same lane (unless it's indicating to turn left).

It is an OFFENCE to overtake on the LEFT of a MOVING vehicle in the same lane (unless it's indicating to turn right).

It's not allowed to run up either the left or right hand shoulders of highways or motorways.

Motorcycles are allowed on city bus-lanes but not on motorway-bus lanes. City councils allow this but the State Highways Dept does not.

Generally if it is done sensibly when traffic is bumper to bumper to lane-split. It is safer to lane-split in my opinion than ride between bumpers of slow moving/stopping traffic.

If the traffic is proceeding less than 20km (approx 12mph) then lane-splitting can be considered OK, anything faster don't do it.

Any views on lane-splitting in other countries ?


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From an Australian point of view, I haven't been able to find any hard and fast laws that pertain specifically to motorcycles.

The general law is that you must not "share" a lane. Which means you can't overtake on either side, in the same lane.

Overtaking on the left in another lane is also illegal, as is travelling in the breakdown lanes for more than 100 metres or in an emergency.

Overtaking on the right is of course legal, only in another lane.

We can use Bus Lanes 24 hours, so long as it says Bus Lane, as can taxis, hire cars etc, but we can't use Bus ONLY Lanes. These are used specifically to filter buses at traffic lights.

So that's the letter of the law. The law of the land however is slightly different.

Most bikes will filter through the stopped traffic to the front of the lights if they can get through. Some will filter while it's moving (a bad practice in my opinion). Most bikes will also use the breakdown lane if the traffic is crawling, or stopped, but some bikes will use it exclusively regardless of the speed of the traffic (another dangerous practice)

Personally, I filter/split the stopped and barely moving traffic, use bus lanes and the breakdown lane when I need to. It's safer as you say to be either out front, or out of the way of crushing car bumpers especially in this day of cell phones and laptops on steering wheels!

As far as the Police are concerned, there is no official law in New South Wales, but you will only get booked for lane splitting dangerously, travelling too fast, or for too long in a breakdown lane, or travelling in a Bus ONLY Lane.

Apparently back in 2005 the Australian Gobment decided to include an actual law preventing lane splitting, but that never got included in the recent road rules changes, so there is still no official law.

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In England lane splitting or filtering is legal.

As far as speed is concerned I'm aware of two rules of thumb: 20:20 - ride no faster than 20mph faster than the overtaken traffic which should not be travelling at more than 20mph and the police bikewise guidance which says not more than 5mph faster.

Bus lane usage varies widely - assume you can't unless expressly allowed.

Is it safe?

Like everything on a motorcycle the answer depends: if you can ride straight without wobbling at low speed and you can observe and anticipate the actions of all the car drivers and you can stop in no time flat if you have to then yes it's safe.
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Lane splitting is not legal in Indiana. Personally, I don't think I would be able to do. It just seems entirely unsafe. Of course, traffic here is never really that bad so there really isn't much need to do so. If I lived in a state where it was legal I think I would have to kit out my bike so it would be less vulnerable.

A good resource to check to see if lane splitting is legal in each state in the US is the AMA website. (http://www.amadirectlink.com/legisltn/laws.asp)
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Safe!

Nothing about riding a motorcycle is safe but it is fun and lane-splitting is one of the fun things to do on a motorcycle
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Nothing about riding a motorcycle is safe but it is fun and lane-splitting is one of the fun things to do on a motorcycle

It certainly beats waiting in standing traffic inhaling fumes and getting to the front into the open road and leaving it all behind you.

One of the reasons given by traffic police for allowing lane-splitting here is that motorcycles are more difficult to handle in bumper to bumper stop/go traffic.

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One of the reasons given by traffic police for allowing lane-splitting here is that motorcycles are more difficult to handle in bumper to bumper stop/go traffic.
Amen to that! That's about the only time I really want to lane-split. Alas I lack the balls to do it, and it is illegal here. Of course I have ridden on the shoulder to get to the exit, but then again, cars do that too.
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In England lane splitting or filtering is legal.
There was even a petition calling on the government to raise public awareness of that fact because we get carved up so often. I suspect that it might only raise awareness of another loophole the nanny state hasn't closed yet so I'm not sure it will do us any favours.

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As far as speed is concerned I'm aware of two rules of thumb: 20:20
Another rule of thumb only filter between two vehicles - if there is a gap to either side you can bet the car on the other side will swerve across just as you get to it if you see a gap back off and cover the brake.
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Not only is it legal in the UK, but there's a few Youtube clips of a rider, Police class 1, identity apparently verified, on his own bike lane splitting on various roads, including motorways.
Clips include him filtering through M'way queues travelling at what I'd estimate is 40 to 50 mph. He's careful though, taking stock of each situation & adjusting his speed differential for max safety as required.
I will use every opportunity NOT to queue - no reason why we should. I think most cagers realise we don't hold them up or delay them by filtering, many actively giving room - in fact, by making use of 'spare' road, we reduce congestion.
I enjoy it - used to deliberately go right thru' central London, rather than go round or use the 'circulars' - great buzz & a real skill honer .

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UK Motorcycle News has a petition on it's website to stop London's new Mayor backtracking on his pre-election promise to allow bikers to use bus lanes. I say s*&%^w Boris Johnson - use 'em anyway
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