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02-27-2009, 12:20 AM
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How easy it is to drop a bike?
Hi everyone. I've been lurking in the forums for a while now, just checking out threads as I'm contemplating purchasing a motorcycle this summer after I take a riding course.
I've basically done as much as I can as far as research goes, and I'm just concerned with small, but still important, practical things. One thing in particular I've been wondering about is how easy it is to drop a bike.
I'm wondering this because I'm basically set on getting a Honda CRF230M, Scrambler, or a Bonnieville Black. What may be the deal-breaker here for me that determines whether I go Honda or Triumph are the right heights and weights. (The Honda is 31.7 in, and 276lbs)
In particular, I'm worried about being too short / too weak and dropping the (much) heavier Triumphs. I'm about 5 9" (173cm) and weigh 130 lbs. Not being particular strong by any stretch of the imagination, I'm just worried that I'll be walking my bike out to the driveway / coming to a stop and dropping it like a fool.
So ya... in your opinion would I be a likely candidate for destroying a beautiful Triumph by dropping it?
Thanks =)
//Andrew
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02-27-2009, 12:38 AM
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SuperStock Favourite Bike: T100 Bonneville
Join Date: Jan 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Xuande
Hi everyone. I've been lurking in the forums for a while now, just checking out threads as I'm contemplating purchasing a motorcycle this summer after I take a riding course.
I've basically done as much as I can as far as research goes, and I'm just concerned with small, but still important, practical things. One thing in particular I've been wondering about is how easy it is to drop a bike.
I'm wondering this because I'm basically set on getting a Honda CRF230M, Scrambler, or a Bonnieville Black. What may be the deal-breaker here for me that determines whether I go Honda or Triumph are the right heights and weights. (The Honda is 31.7 in, and 276lbs)
In particular, I'm worried about being too short / too weak and dropping the (much) heavier Triumphs. I'm about 5 9" (173cm) and weigh 130 lbs. Not being particular strong by any stretch of the imagination, I'm just worried that I'll be walking my bike out to the driveway / coming to a stop and dropping it like a fool.
So ya... in your opinion would I be a likely candidate for destroying a beautiful Triumph by dropping it?
Thanks =)
//Andrew
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I highly doubt you would drop the Bonnie, as it's center of gravity is quite low, which makes it very stable. I would not however walk the bike out to the driveway at first, but rather straddle it, and "duck walk" it out for saftey. I think after the riding course your fears will pretty much vanish.
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02-27-2009, 03:52 PM
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With weight, it's not so much in dropping the bike as it is in picking it back up again
May I suggest not buying new for your first bike, it'll be less of a heartbreak when you do drop it in the garage.
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02-27-2009, 04:20 PM
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Why don't you start with the lighter bike? As time goes by and you become more proficient/comfortable, you can get a bigger heavier bike.
It's no big deal either way. When you drop a Triumph (depending on which side) it'll cost you a couple hundred - up to $1,0000. As long as you're quick, it probably won't break your leg.
If I was worried, I'd start with the smaller/lighter bike.
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02-27-2009, 05:20 PM
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250 Grand Prix Favourite Bike: 08 Bonnie
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I am about the same size/weight as you and I have not had a problem (yet) with my Bonnie. She IS heavy, but well-balanced. Much more so than my old Hondas, both of which I have dropped whilewalking them through a gravel parking lot. (stay away from deep gravel)
I am a LOT more cautious with my Triumph. I think the key is making slow, deliberate movements and paying attention to what you are doing. As for braking, again - focus, and concentrate on being smooth. When I first rode the Bonneville, I was amazed at how smooth and civil these bikes are, provided you don't jerk the throttle or the brakes.
+1 on taking the rider course!
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02-27-2009, 05:45 PM
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I'm 6'1" 210 and I droped a 600 a while back ago, because I was in a hurry and not paying attention. What I'm saying is, no matter what size you are, this can happen.I'm very aware now when I move my bike, I take my time and careful, and never drink when you move or ride your bike.
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02-27-2009, 06:00 PM
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Take the class first!
Then buy a cheap used bike to knock around on a little bit. The class is great for riding around in a parking lot and teaching the fundamentals but doesn't get you real world experience nor do you get a feel for a bike over 250ccs.
After you get some riding experience go out and buy your dream bike.
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02-27-2009, 06:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ARC
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I am a LOT more cautious with my Triumph. I think the key is making slow, deliberate movements and paying attention to what you are doing. As for braking, again - focus, and concentrate on being smooth.
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This is, perhaps, the most significant advice. Learn it, live it!
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02-28-2009, 06:02 AM
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Hello and welcome Xuande.
Here are a couple videos of how to pick up a fallen bike. I've dropped every bike I've owned thru the years.
I highly recommend an MSF course. They're great! Good luck and have fun, Mark H.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4MPyX0QCYw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPjYweKeiLk
Last edited by AK955; 02-28-2009 at 06:07 AM.
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02-28-2009, 09:25 AM
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Those are good videos for for the hapless rider who finds his bike sprawled out like a dead buffalo; good thing Triumphs are rather compact. I cannot help but think about that person who learns this - but forgets the kickstand part, and lifts the bike only to have it flop over on the other side! OMG!
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