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Old 03-21-2005   #1 (permalink)
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Hello all. I am just in the initial planning phases of a potential trip from Bel Air, Maryland to Juneau, Alaska and back for 2007. I will go by motorcycle and my buddy by his truck with travel trailer (he will take his family). We are thinking of taking a month off to do it, maybe July.

Has anyone traveled to Alaska from the east coast before? Any recommended routes? What books or websites are "musts" for research for a trip like this? I currently have an 02 Thunderbird and an 05 Rocket III and am thinking of taking the Rocket III unless the roads aren't all paved. If need be I will get a Tiger or a Suzuki DL650 V-Strom if I can't afford a Tiger.

Basically looking for route advice and general tips/knowledge from people who have done this before or are familiar with the area.

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:-D During Grad School (1991) a friend and I drove an open air jeep to Alaska (Gates of the Artic) and back (17K miles) and backpacked every national park along the way. On the way up we took the ALCAN highway. Not to bad but there are alot of long sections that are pretty primitive (dirt roads) I would recommend a dual purpose bike. Granted it was 14 years ago but my impression was the roads are primitive in the ready remote sections. Hopefully someone else can verify this for you. Also there are lots of slow moving mobile homes moving in groups (a ***** to pass). I guess retire folk travelling together. One nice thing is that you simply pull off the road when you get tire of driving and camp (alot of great fishing). If you are traveling alone you will need petro cans. There are a couple of spots where it's over 150 miles between gas stations. On the way back we came down the pacific coast to Vancouver (forgot the name of the highway). I liked the scenery alot better. A great trip. Unforgetable memories. Best chance to see true wilderness before it all disappears.
I live in Severn Md. Maybe we can hook up and I'll show you the route we took and cool stuff to visit.
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I haven't traveled to Alaska from the east coast, but I did it from the west last year. I can only imagine from what I saw that you are in for a fabulous ride.

You are aware there's only one route into and out of Juneau, right? The Marine Highway System. It's a completely landlocked city with about 60 miles of roads inclusive.
Not that the ferry is such a bad thing. It's an amazing part of the country.
I would look at riding to Prince Rupert and take the ferry from there if you can, (and it's paved) something to check.
As far as the roads, British Columbia is to die for. The Alaskan Highway itself, well, not so much. It's a bit like the Pennsylvania Turnpike with better scenery.
For the record, out of the whole length of the AlCan there was about a total of TEN miles not paved (because of construction and generally about a mile or less at a stretch) I did it on the Legend, complete with tube tires so you can do it with the Rocket as long as you realize there will be some paint pings. They like to patch frost heaves and whatnot with gravel. Lots of gravel. Boots that cover the shins might also be a good idea.
Also be aware those ten miles were insane- pilot cars that thought they were training for the Dakar, RV's going 10mph and sliding across the track, semi-trailers driven by Rossi's American relatives, gravel pits, and mud, mud, mud...

Here is the archived blog of my riding buddy, who I convinced to go on the trip with us. (Ok, 'suggested' is much closer to the truth.)
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Here's a good report from Sport-touring.net. Two to Prudhoe

Granted, they went all the way to the artic circle, but its a great report of a great ride.

BTW, someone else on the site just returned from a trip to Alaska on a ZX7R...

Enjoy, and good luck on the trip planning!

Dan

edited to add: I just noticed that most of the photo links are broken... The report is still a good one, though...

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One word: go! I set off a couple of years ago with a road atlas and my camping gear but no particular destination in mind and wound up in Alaska. The trip is utterly fantastic and something I'd recommend to anyone who likes to travel and has the time to go.

Any road info you obtain that's older than last month is useless. The roads are generally in good shape and paved all the way. The awful stretches of the AlCan where it heaved 2-3' into the air with each winter freeze have been completely reengineered and rebuilt, it's no longer the frontier it was even a few years ago. When you get into Canada's far north (e.g., the Yukon, not Alberta & BC) the roads are hardpack (rolled oiled gravel, chat, etc.) rather than the traditional asphalt we're used to down here but aside from sounding a little strange under your tires they aren't really much different to ride on. The only exception is that they tend to do road construction up there in stretches that can run several (e.g., 10-20) miles and they don't do it by building nice paved temporary bypasses, they do it by grading up the hardpack and putting traffic through one-way. On those stretches you'll be riding on gravel that'll range from something akin to pavement with loose bits on top (not bad at all) to gravel that's several inches deep (not fun on a bike with a narrow front tire and very high center of gravity). Plan on 40-50 miles of that along the AlCan. I did the trip on a Tiger but I met guys on sportbikes, cruisers, you name it and I have no doubt that my Daytona would have survived just fine as well. You will have *no* issues with the roads on any of the bikes you mentioned.

Most of the commentary on traffic is a bit overblown as well. There certainly are herds of humongous RVs roaming the highways (packed into bunches by the long waits at construction zones) but it's far from wall-to-wall and anyone acclimated to freeway traffic in any US city will find the roads to be downright deserted. Here's a shot of the massively overcrowded highway about halfway between Fairbanks and the Yukon border:



I parked the bike on one of those little yellow motorcycle parking strips you see in the bottom center portion of the photo, wandered over to the edge of the road to watch a moose for a couple of minutes, wandered back out into the road, shot this pic, then continued on my way. Try that here in the Bay Area. :razz:

But those comments apply to points well north of where you're planning to be (if I were you and I were going all the way from the east coast of the US to Juneau I'd just continue on to Alaska proper while I was at it). The road from Prince George to Prince Rupert is regular pavement and in better shape than most highways in the US. As a matter of fact if you stop at any Canadian tourist info stand and inquire about road conditions along the way to points north they'll look at you like you're from another planet before lecturing you about the fact that just because they're not Americans doesn't mean they're unwashed heathens who ride around on dirt tracks and don't know how to pave their roads properly. It's pretty but there aren't enough twisties to make it really interesting riding (the Skeena river valley comprising about the last 100 miles into Prince Rupert is very scenic and worth a trip in that direction in and of itself). From Prince Rupert you'll need to take the Alaska Marine Highway ferry to get to Juneau (no roads going in). Your friend with the truck will want to book weeks in advance as the ferries fill up quickly, but there's almost always room for them to shoehorn in another motorcycle at the last minute. Take a couple of good ratchet-style tie downs for the ferry trip though unless the weather is insane they won't be tested. I didn't want to ride the AlCan twice so I took the ferry from Prince Rupert (skip the historical cannery tour and head straight to the bars) to Haines then rode on into Alaska and all the way back. The Inside Passage trip from Rupert north is very cool if the weather cooperates (best bit is apparently the passage through a canyon into Skagway which I didn't see as I got off too early). Don't bother with a cabin, just pitch a tent on deck and watch the scenery roll by.

Some of the best scenery (though not necessarily the best motorcycling) in North America lies between Banff & Jasper in Alberta. That area is well worth the time even though it's a bit crowded and touristy. Be sure to stop and see Lake Louise (preferably very early in the morning, go directly to the lake & skip the ride up the ski lift). The short hikes & views from the top of Mt. Revelstoke are worth a day trip as well. The Colombia Icefields are worth a stop as you can hike up the glacier which is interesting.

Regarding what bike to take: as I mentioned I took a Tiger but IMHO that's actually a poor choice. The massively overloaded (as any bike will be for a trip of that sort) outriggers / panniers coupled with the fact that it's already a but unweildy with it's bulk & high center of gravity made piloting that bike a bit more interesting than it needed to be through the deep gravel bits. Give me a cruiser with a nice fat front tire and a low center of gravity for that any day. The hard bags on the Tiger were a bit worrisome as even a low-speed drop woud've sent me to the side of the road for an hour or two of duct-taping a shattered pannier back together as well as possible. In my opinion you'll not only be fine on the Rocket, you'll actually be better off than I was. :-D

The biggest issue you'll have is the fact that you're going to be *far* from any Triumph dealers so be sure that the bike is in top shape before you leave and if you're going to need a scheduled service on the road plan ahead & call it in at least a few weeks in advance. I took spare relays (didn't need), fuses (didn't need), brake pads (didn't need), oil filter (didn't use), small air pump (didn't need), headlight bulbs (didn't need), tubes (didn't need), tools (didn't need), etc. It's good to be prepared but there's only so much you can carry (or would want to). If I were you I'd spend my money putting good progressive shocks on the Rocket and thinking about how to keep things dry in my bags (though with a friend in a truck going along that's less of an issue for you). I'd also think seriously about putting some Ride-On tire sealant in your tires as it can be a looooong stretch between tire shops up there. Ride-On isn't corrosive and works *very* well. If I were making the trip again the only thing I'd take that I didn't have last time is a clutch cable ... go ahead, ask me why.

Other than that: ride safe, take your time, & enjoy the trip!

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Thanks for a great write up! My buddy and I have already decided if we are going we will go to Anchorage. We are even discussing taking a train out there so we can get there quicker to allow for more time to explore and ride back.

I know the trip is a long ways off but I am getting really excited! This is a fun trip to plan!
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:-D Reading all the posts, I never realized how outdated my information was (I guess 14 years is a long time). Makes me want to take the trip again. One thing I will agree on, the section between Banff and Jasper was truly beautiful. I can still visualize the milky blue-green Lake Lousie with the mountains in the background. Enjoy the trip, it's a once in a lifetime adventure.
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For the record, I wasn't terribly impressed with Anchorage and thought it lacked much that distinguished it from any other city. It's a long way to go to look at Starbucks and street lights.
But we didn't have time to do a loop down the Kenai, which is supposed to be amazing.
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Personally I'd stop in the Yukon next time or spend more time in BC & Alberta. The best way to see the best bits of Alaska (IMHO of course) is by boat but if the trip' s the thing ....
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John, I think you've hit it spot on with that one.
I loved southern BC for riding, but I don't think I'd ride the northern sections again. Once was enough.
For sightseeing I thought the MHS ferry was wonderful. I figure one day, when I can't ride so much any more, I'm going to book the ferry with at least a day layover in every port just so I get a better look at all the towns.
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