Triumphrat

jhampshire · 10-25-2012, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Calliway

Underpowered, heavy and sorry not very pretty. It will tour wonderfully and it looks like great weather protection but I have to say both the Tiger Explorer and this look far to much like Bimmers to me.

Does this mean you would not want a Bimmer either? I don't care if they copied it or not, they got it right and then some. There is nothing wrong with copying a good idea.

JustPete · 10-31-2012, 07:32 AM

Sport bikes evolved, other then bold new graphics, to be close in design. The same could be said for sport touring bikes. BMW is very good with air management and if other manufacturers want the same result, looks will be similar. BMW owners like the added features and if Triumph wants to get a piece of this market they need to offer the same.
If Triumph builds this bike with reliable switch gear, fuel gauges, and final drives, it will be a success. Just don't make the owner go to a dealer to have the service reminder reset, GS911 for Triumph.
It may look like a duck but the triple won't quack like a duck.

Beemer = motorcycle
Bimmer = auto

tomp · 11-01-2012, 12:47 AM

+1 on that.

I really don't want to go look at the Trophy, as my RT is only four months old and is so nice.

I've wasted enough money doing bad trades already... BTW, my service reminder is on on the RT, and will stay that way. Doesn't effect the bike at all and the dealer wants to charge to reset, since I did the last service myself, not them...

Tigger · 11-01-2012, 04:01 AM

I'm detecting a little resentment over the dealer's service department charging for their time to reset the service indicator when they weren't asked to carry out the service in the first place. I don't understand why they shouldn't charge for this service; perhaps you can enlighten me?

"It may look like a duck but the triple won't quack like a duck."

Are you saying that the Triumph triple will be, in some way, inferior to the BMW flat twin? Your analogy that the BMW is the only one that quacks like a duck is probably a good one, I'll stick with the Triumph triple that barks like a rottweiler!

JustPete · 11-01-2012, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Tigger

I'm detecting a little resentment over the dealer's service department charging for their time to reset the service indicator when they weren't asked to carry out the service in the first place. I don't understand why they shouldn't charge for this service; perhaps you can enlighten me?

"It may look like a duck but the triple won't quack like a duck."

Are you saying that the Triumph triple will be, in some way, inferior to the BMW flat twin? Your analogy that the BMW is the only one that quacks like a duck is probably a good one, I'll stick with the Triumph triple that barks like a rottweiler!

For someone who does their own service it forces them to go to the dealer if they want the light reset. It can be a heated issue with BMW owners. If BMW owners are the target it will carry over. It''s not that they shouldn't charge to reset the light it's an I shouldn't have to take it there to have the light reset in the first place.

The analogy is reference to some calling it an RT copy. It might look like an RT but it will not run like an RT, boxer vs triple. I have owned an RT but obviously not a Trophy SE so I can't say which engine I'd prefer but as a guess I'd go with the wet clutch triple as opposed to the dry clutch boxer. Hope I enlightened.

I don't drink any manufacturers kool-aid so don't misunderstand my post. If I like a bike I buy it if I don't I don't, lettering on the tank doesn't matter. Just like it doesn't matter where my Bonnie was assembled.

JustPete · 11-01-2012, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by tomp

+1 on that.

I really don't want to go look at the Trophy, as my RT is only four months old and is so nice.

I've wasted enough money doing bad trades already... BTW, my service reminder is on on the RT, and will stay that way. Doesn't effect the bike at all and the dealer wants to charge to reset, since I did the last service myself, not them...

Search the forums and look for an owner who is willing to share their GS911 and they will rest the reminder for you, might cost you a beverage of choice. Or purchase a GS911 if you plan on servicing the bike yourself.

I don't have anything to do with GS911 it's just a great tool.

Tigger · 11-01-2012, 05:32 PM

I've just come back from the dealer launch at Exeter, where they also had a BMW RT in the same showroom.

First, I looked at the RT and (comparing it to the photos of the Trophy that I'd seen before) they really did look incredibly similar.

However, when they took the covers off the Trophy I was completely amazed by it. It looked like the RT might do in another 10 years after a complete redesign. Without taking anything away from the RT, it looked hugely impressive and was certainly the best finished contemporary Triumph I have ever seen.

Test drive booked.....

triplestrength · 11-01-2012, 06:34 PM

Sweet! Must take a look soon.

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Tigeralorange · 11-03-2012, 07:26 PM

Had my test ride today. Not overly impressed, not my kind of bike I guess?

tomp · 11-04-2012, 03:17 PM

Tigger, No ill feelings towards the dealer or its service department. It's like JustPete stated, BMW shouldn't build in a reminder that forces the owner into a dealer shop to reset, when it isn't necessary to remind us to change the fluids. But what the hey, I have two Scions/Toyota, that both have service reminders that flash, reminding me to service the vehicle, but also have instructions in the owner's manual to reset it yourself.

I found an RT owner who would let me join his 911, but lives on the other side of Houston. May need to look him up to be able to check codes, should the arise.