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Bonneville vs. America

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#1 ·
First time rider, just finished MSF and looking for my first bike. I always loved Bonnevilles when I was younger and went to check them at the local dealer. Saw the America, and thought it was beautiful as well. I also liked the lower seat height since I'm not that tall. Not too sure about the forward pegs, different than what I learned on in class. What thoughts and recommendations does the forum have for me?

Thanks!
 
#3 ·
How tall are you?

I say Bonnie, hands down. But I don't like cruisers at all, so take that for what it's worth.

If the Bonnie is too tall, you can get the seat redone and remove some foam. Or get an aftermarket seat that will lower the height an inch or two.

You can also lower the bike some by replacing the rear shocks with shorter units, then dropping the fork tubes to lower the overall bike. Though I've heard a sidestand mod is necessary. I'll let those who've done this chime in here.

Or both suspension and seat!

I think the Bonnie is the best choice. You can turn it into anything you want. Stripped down cafe bike. Hacked up bar hopper. Street tracker. Retro machine. Two-up touring bike.

The America is and always will be a cruiser.




[ This message was edited by: McQueen on 2007-02-28 15:45 ]
 
#5 ·
Triumph is having a "Bike Week for the Rest of Us" next week, the 7th - 10th, if I'm not mistaken. Both of my local dealers are going to have the full range available to ride (so I'm told), so I'm going to test ride all the Bonnie variants.

If you're in SoCal, there's got to be a dealership somewhere near you that's participating.

Personally, I don't like the La-Z-Boy ergos of cruisers. They just make me feel vulnerable for some reason.
 
#6 ·
How tall are you?

I'm 5'7" and sometimes I wish the Bonnie was a little shorter (just and inch or so). But I'd choose it over the America. I don't like the cruiser seating and forward pegs. I started riding on the Bonnie and I've been loving it. I'm sure the America is a great cruiser, but I feel much more centered/stable/able to ride with mid foot controlls and upright/sporty posture.

I've got the stock seat and springs, and I am considering taking some padding out of the seat and/or getting slightly shorter springs.

My vote is Bonneville.
 
#7 ·
Go with the version of Bonnie that feels best beneath you. I personally LOVE the Speedmaster with it's mag wheels and tubeless tires ('07 America have mags now too?). The Speedmaster has a couple disc brakes up front.... and really cool "drag" bars, I like that as well. But I hate forward controls, not only because they're too gaye for me, but because my short legs can't reach 'em.

But I'm an old guy who used to long for a Bonneville back in the day; I'm a bit of a tratditionalist, so I prefer the traditional look of the Black, T100, and Thruxton. I don't do "cruisers."

I too am a short guy..... I can't reach the ground from the seat of a Bonnie, but I haven't been able to reach the ground from various motorcycle seats for over 35 years now. A 'newbie' should have confidence in himself and his/her abilities. The lower seat height of the cruisers will do that for you, and if you can reach the forward controls..... you'll get used to them.

They're all really handsome AND unique bikes, and they're certainly not a cookie cutter bike like so many other bikes out there. You can't go wrong, WHATEVER you choose! Go back to the dealership a few more times and sit on the different models...... then go with the model AND color that keeps calling out to you.

[ This message was edited by: FattRat on 2007-02-28 15:30 ]
 
#9 ·
Go with the Bonnie. :-D I am short legged too and I solved the problem with a Corbin Gunfighter. They ask for your inseam. If you are a 30 tell them you are 29 :-D I can put my feet flat on the ground now :cool:
 
#10 ·
I'll put in a bit of info as an America owner/fan. I was a new rider when I went shopping as well. The lower riding position, I'm 5' 6", (lowered futher with an after market seat) felt "right" to me. The forward controls have never been an issue. It's a cruiser, yea, and there's nothing wrong with that. But it is nimble enough, can be modified in all different ways, and I am as happy as a clam with it.

Having said all that, I will, oh yes, add a Bonnie to my collection at some point. A guy can't have just one bike, after all.

:wink:

[ This message was edited by: tba-golfer on 2007-02-28 15:52 ]
 
#11 ·
It is not just the feet forward position that is different on the America. It will handle very differently than the Bonnie due to different front suspension geometry. The upshot is that America will be more stable in a straight line but harder/slower to turn in. You should ride both and see which you like better. As others have stated, the height issues are fixable, the handling differences are inherent in the two models.

Fred
 
#13 ·
SoCal,

Your recent motorcycle "life' has paralleled mine. I, too, took the MSF after being off a bike for 10 years and then bought a Triumph Speedmaster. Eventually sold the Speedmaster and bought a Sprint ST. Sold the Sprint and now own a Bonneville. My point is that each has its pros and cons. Some like chocolate ice cream, others like vanilla. It is not for me to say which is best for you, let alone what color is best. But for me, the ultimate decision came down to which bike had the best ergonomics FOR ME.

I didn't like the forward controls of the Speedmaster, however you might. I didn't like the "cramped" seating postition of the Sprint, however you might. As Goldilocks would say, the Bonneville is "just right"...FOR ME.

They're all great bikes, find the one that fits...YOU.



[ This message was edited by: ggRAT on 2007-03-01 13:43 ]
 
#17 ·
Hi I'm 5'6"

I have a Bonnie I've had it stock for two years, I've done 14000 miles on it including 3000 miles in 13 days on a return trip form London to Sicily.
I've had Cruisers and strangely enough the way there set up actually works out more uncomfortable than most regular bikes.
Cruisers are a style thing really, if your worried about the ride quality a stocker will all ways win over a cruiser.
If your worried about the pose value, everyone will ask you why you didn't buy a Harley Sportster.
Thats my observations here in the UK anyway.

What was the old 50s/60s poster logo " Triumph Bonneville the Coolest Bike in America".

The choice is yours enjoy.

Jon (UK)
 
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