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Zero Dark Thirty movie

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#1 ·
Saw "Zero Dark Thirty" today, and was greatly impressed. Long movie, and reminded me of a documentary or reality program. Recommend it highly.
 
#2 ·
I agree. A good telling of the story but one can only guess how accurate it was. most importantly it conveyed the tedius nature of the search for OBL and the tireless determination of the team.
 
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Funny that it took over ten years to find and kill the SOB but only the last two years of the hunt bore fruit.

Hard to draw a parallel with lack of due process when with out warning, war is declared upon us and 3000 Americans are killed with in a couple hours. Politics at it's best should be shut down by the mods.
 
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Did you see the movie? I don't agree with all the tactics used by the US in the fight on terrorism but I didn't think we were talking about that, I thought we were discussing the film. It didn't seem to glorify torture as much as expose it.
 
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Unfortunately this is a subject that will easily go off course. I have heard the movie is good but that will come second due to the issues surrounding it. This forum is visited by members from around the world who all have opinions. Good luck keeping this thread on the topic of the movie and not what the movie is about.
 
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Haven't seen the film, but a friend did. 90 seconds in, he stood up and proclaimed loudly to the theater "this is bullsh!t" and walked out. Asked for and got his money back, too.

Whether or not I'd agree with him, I admire his willingness to call it as he saw it, and back up his opinion with actions.
 
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Haven't seen the film, but a friend did. 90 seconds in, he stood up and proclaimed loudly to the theater "this is bullsh!t" and walked out. Asked for and got his money back, too.

Whether or not I'd agree with him, I admire his willingness to call it as he saw it, and back up his opinion with actions.
Last year I was at an orchestra performance of Schoenberg's Sprechstinne. Five minutes into the performance someone stood up and announced to the orchestra and the audience "THIS IS CRAP," and walked out. Different situation I know, but his poor wife then had to decide whether or not to follow him out. She stayed put and enjoyed what was a fantastic reading of the piece, his loss.
 
#8 ·
Well, it's a film. It's entertainment. And from other reviews I've read, its pretty good entertainment at that.

Personally, I don't expect to obtain historical facts from movies. They are likely embellished accounts of true events, at minimum. There are better places, surely, to get accurate accounts of true events. To the extent possible, that is.

If somebody expects truth from Hollywood, they'll likely be disappointed. That's not what Hollywood is about, really, is it?
 
#34 ·
Well, it's a film. It's entertainment. And from other reviews I've read, its pretty good entertainment at that.
My understanding is that the film opens with recordings of actual 911 calls from victims in the Twin Towers as they plunged to their deaths. If true, that's just wrong. And it's certainly not entertainment.


Back to the movie. It was filmed in a very realistic manner, in my opinion, and was made by the same (female) director as Iraq war film "The Hurt Locker".
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Just comment on the movie as a portrayal of a story.
If listening to real people die is considered a story and a form entertainment, then I am at a loss for words.
 
#9 ·
Ah hum, it's a movie, none of what has been displayed even remotely is attributed to the actual events. Those events are classified and will never be made available to the public, let alone to Hollywood.

The embellishment and over dramatization, is nothing but a writers and producers imagination. My God, have we finally succumbed to imaginary reality?:rolleyes:
 
#13 ·
Back to the movie. It was filmed in a very realistic manner, in my opinion, and was made by the same (female) director as Iraq war film "The Hurt Locker". (That is the only point I was making in my original thread). And please, folks, don't comment here with a quasi-political spin, especially when you've not even see the movie, and then speculate that the thread is headed off topic and should be pulled as being "political". Just comment on the movie as a portrayal of a story.
 
#15 ·
I intend to see the film Scrammy. Hurt Locker was a fantastic movie. I like the directors style. Thrilling stuff.
 
#21 ·
Haven't seen the movie yet, but I have read that there has been some grumbling from those "in the know" that the "artistic license" of this film went further than their tastes could bear.

I hear you guys who say that this is "just a movie" and it is "entertainment" but I also know that there are millions of low-information voters out there who get their "news" from Comedy Central's "The Daily Show" and a movie like Zero Dark thirty will absolutely be viewed as a history lesson by those people.

I haven't heard yet if this is any sort of propaganda flick, but as evidenced by the previous comments regarding torture, I can see that some are taking it as such.
 
#22 ·
I'm reminded of a few US Marines in a movie-theatre watching "A Few Good Men"...the moment Jack Nicholson's character admitted to a "code-red" they were going nuts..."That is feckin' BS!!" etc...."Guys!...I'm here with my kids - tone it down right now!!"

They did....nice guys, all of them.
 
#23 ·
I think me being a military servicemember I sometimes criticize movies about military things, just because rarely do they portray actually military life. That being said though I also understand why they do some of the things they do: for entertainment. For most of us in the military, it's our duty and our job. It's not always terribly exciting or "movie" worthy. In the end I watch movies for entertainment and fun, not complete accuracy.
 
#24 ·
I'm against this movie all together personally. I think it is really crappy to release a movie about how they are trying to "tell people" how the US killed Bin Laden. I think we should have kept our mouths shut about the whole thing.

Its hard to say what could be considered acceptable content for a movie talking about war activities. I doubt people would have appreciated a movie about the Holocaust in the 50s. Even if he was considered a bad guy by most the world I think popping out a movie so quickly is disrespectful.
 
#25 ·
Generally, there's a lot of crap in the public domain that's enabled by the first ammendment. I would have to study the impact of this film a bit before I would say it's worthless, or even harmful. Are there any security or secrecy issues associated with the film, contrary to US law or policy?
 
#26 ·
I've always wondered how the Germans felt about the barrage of Hollywood WWII flicks that dominated the 50s & 60s, which all had the same subliminal message (We won!). I guess they had no choice but to accept it, as to the Victors go the spoils (& the bragging rights). But in this current conflict, where the Victors have yet to be established, I'm fairly certain that there are 1 billion Muslims who'll take a very different message from this movie than the rest of us.
 
#27 ·
Modern war movies set in Iraq or Afghanistan have taken a different path than the war movies of old. During a war, it was rare to see Hollywood put out a film that was critical while the war was going on, as Hollywood was a big part of the American propaganda machine. It wasn't until afterward that a film critical of the war or had a story line other than "we won!" was produced.

Now, though, Hollywood is making films critical of the Iraq and Afghan wars as they're happening. It's an interesting turn for Hollywood, I think.
 
#28 ·
Recent wars, starting with Vietnam, haven't had the public support that was palpable during WWII, they are by nature more controversial. On top of that, technology can now shed a much harsher light on the daily activities of war than ever before. I cringe, wondering what dark secrets were borne by our older vets. Writing and making film about a war experience couldn't help but change.
 
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