It looks like Triumph have decided to make the top oil cooler braided hoses into pre-formed solid pipes, much neater. Have a close look at this picture, I imagine they've done the same for the hose on the other side:
Look the same size to me from those comparison pics posted. 1 pic is bigger than the other & light colours/shapes appear bigger than dark (ie the lower fins). It's just perception imo.
A factory 1,000cc Bonnie? Bigger is not always better, especially if it gains a weight in the process (which it probably would) and they do anything really silly, like water cooling, for example.
A slightly bigger engine would be nice as long as the basic character of the bike is not lost in the process. I think that the fact our bikes have remained largely unchanged for 12 model years is testament to what a well balanced package they are.
A good stylist working closely with the engine designer can disguise water-cooling very effectively. I've been fooled by quite a few liquid-cooled engines until I looked closely.
Just remember the 1087s that a few of us are riding around are not any bigger or heavier than the original motors they were based on. So it is not true that a litre bike Bonnie need be bigger or heavier. My bike is 385 lbs dry, and Triumph could easily approach that with modern materials without all the hoops I had to jump through, all the while keeping a classic look. But a bigger motor and lighter, stronger frame cost money, and how many are willing to pay for that ? And who's to say our 1087s are emission compliant ? Heck none are even fuel injected.
So its a big undertaking. The advantage of aircooling is simplicity, which translates to cost. Look how complex a Speed Triple is compared to our bikes. Or an early 911 compared to the more recent ones. Once you go to watercooling, why maintain the pretence of calling it a classic bike ?
Well I for one will convert to the hard pipes if it doesn't require changing the cooler itself. To me it looks much cleaner. I noticed those lines Wed. when I was at the dealer.
This is the THIRD time Triumph has redesigned the oil lines. Early 2001s use a different oil cooler lines then Mid 2001s thru 2012. The 2013 configuration is simply a cleaner and less expensive assembly. I have always been a firm believer if it's not broken dont fix it. It is refreshing to see the blood line still being improved though.
Yes, but, can we retrofit these new lines and do away with the braided lines??? I ,for one, would like to do it to my 2012 if possible........Anyone??? The Meister
No, I don't think this is correct. The 10th digit or character (when counted from the left; sorry, I don't mean to insult, but I used to work with VINS everyday and would have to explain this to techs regularly) shall determine the model year. This is a world wide standard.
If your Bonnie is a 2013, then the tenth digit is a D. 2012 = C. The eleventh digit or character, denoting the plant of manufacture, is a T (Thailand).
Hello, no insult taken but you made me doubt, I just went and checked on the bike itself. The 10th digit is a G, I don't know what it means but that's certainly not the year. The 11th digit is a D.
I seem to remember seeing this discussed somewhere already, perhaps on this forum.
Hello, no insult taken but you made me doubt, I just went and checked on the bike itself. The 10th digit is a G, I don't know what it means but that's certainly not the year. The 11th digit is a D.
I seem to remember seeing this discussed somewhere already, perhaps on this forum.
Why do you guys always want more motor? I'm going to go ahead with a Bonnie because it meets my criteria, looks good, etc but honestly I'd much prefer something in the 400-600cc range especially if it was 50-100lbs lighter.
To all I have read through this entire thread and haven't seen anyone who has swapped the lines over. I have a 2013 thruxton and am interested in swapping to the braided oil lines. I don't see why this would be a very difficult swap and am willing to try it. Someone above mentioned that the cooler itself is different I cannot see a difference in any photos/ inspections I've done but I could be wrong. Would swapping be as simple as bolt off.. bolt on. Has anyone actually done it? I found the older braided lines to be endearing look to the bike and was disappointed that they were dropped on the newer model.
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