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#1 ·
Hi all, I'm a new guy to the forum. I posted my first post on the welcome center a couple days ago.
Now about the project. About a month ago I went to my local metal recycle center. When I pulled in I was shocked to see a old Triumph sitting by the office. I was told it was a 1976 Trophy and it was scheduled to be crushed the next day. I couldn't stand it. Back in the early 70's I rode three different Bonnevills. I talked them into selling the bike to me for the grand total of $150. I checked the numbers and found it was a 1972 Tiger 650. I don't know how to post pictures here so take my word on this, it was ugly. The engine was froze, the wheels were froze wouldn't turn, all of the cable were froze, the seat was missing, rust holes through the rear wheel, a small rust out in the tank, bottom of the head light bucket rusted away, as was the right side panel below the seat. exhaust system rusted through, But it was beautiful.. I lovingly took it home and immediatly started taking it down for a full rebuild.
Now a little more about me and my tooling. I started a powder coating shop about 5 years ago and I teach metal shaping, you know, English wheel and all of that. I have a 300 gallon derusting tank, it's a electrolisis system. My workshop is a old chicke house that is 30x86 feet. So I'm ready for this project. Lately I have been getting a lot of restoration work like the guy on TV. Now it's my turn to restore something for me. Right now the only thing left on the frame is the forks and wires from the left side of the handlebar. I've pulled just about everything off the engine that I can but to tell the truth I'm a little timid about splitting the case. I've been taking pictures all along but don't know how to post them, and I don't use photobucket. I can do it on my powder coating site but can't seem to get it here. But I can send pictures in an email if someone can post them for me.
 
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#2 ·
Congratulations on your ambition! Sounds like you have the facilities and knowledge to tackle the job. I'm interested to see it so if you send me a PM I'll put some pics up for you but I would really reccommend using Photobucket: its easy to upload and to then link to the pictures
 
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I second the Photobucket recommendation.

Good luck on your project.

300 gallon electrolysis derusting tank, huh. Can you tell us what the bath is? I think a lot of guys here would like to make a small home version and knowing the best bath is probably a major step in the right direction.

regards,
Rob
 
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Shaper another alternative is to post the pictures to the site here.

If you go to http://www.triumphrat.net/memberalbums/

Then click 'Upload Photos' You can then upload them to your member photo area.

Once you have uploaded them you can link to the image by right clicking on the image, copying the image URL and pasting that in your posts as an image link.

That may sound a little complicated but it is pretty easy. It is handy if you don't have something like photobucket and comes as part of your membership of the TRat site. (NB it has restrictions on types of images and sizes you can upload but still can be a useful).
 
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I've been taking pictures all along but don't know how to post them, and I don't use photobucket.
Shaper,
I'll explain the basics of displaying images, rather than a step by step how to. See if that's useful.

To show an image in your post, you have to put the location of the image, surrounded by a pair of IMG tags.
A pair of tags looks like this:




You can get the text to put between the tags by displaying the image you want in your browser, and copying the address line.
Trap for young players: the location of the image has to be accessible to everyone in the world.
So I have a picture on PhotoBucket in my album at
http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k574/loctitekid/LHRear.jpg

When I surround the location with IMG tags it shows here like this:


Preview Post is your friend.

To see the text of this post, not just the result, use the Quote button below.

HTH
Neil.
 
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OK, I did manage to get three pictures on an album. but I'm still not shure how to get them into this post yet. I'll keep working on it. If you don's see pictures below I must have failed.
In the mean time I'll answer some questions
Snakeoil... I have enough pictures to make up a good tutorial on the electrolises system. is there a restriction on the number of pictures I can put into one post or the album?
 

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shaper's big project

No need for a mask. the lady that runs the place is a friend, I'm restoring a pedal car for her now. When they get something interesting or antique she will call me to see if I want it. I bought a 84 Chevrolet truck for 18 cents per pound, came to $646. I also bought a v8 engine and a transmission for $220. I love that place.
She told me after I bought the Triumph someone came with $1000. in cash to buy it. I have friend up north that has one just like mine, he wants to build a bobber out of it. All he wants is the engine and transmission and said I can have the rest for the cost of shipping.
Of course I am encouraging him to build a bobber.
Sometimes life gives you rain and sometimes you get sunshine.
 
#12 ·
My personal opinion would be to not build a bobber from that bike, but rather something more practical. Maybe a cafe bike with Euro type bars versus clip-ons.

Your pics are small. If you are using photobucket, when you put your cursor over the picture, it will bring up a table under the photo (when looking at your album) and the last entry will be the IMG link. Just click that link and the word copied will show up. Then go to your post here and just hit Control V or right click and select PASTE and it will put that link in your post. You can then do a preview before you submit the post to make sure you selected the right photo and it worked as it should.

regards,
Rob
 
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Thanks jonkster, I appreciate the help. I guess you can say I am computer challenged. I think everything should be click and drag.
But I do continue to put out the effort to learn more about it.

Loctitekid, It is my intention to make this bike as near to original as I can possibly make it. Yes, I'm holding my breath waiting to hear from the friend with the parts. It will save me a lot of time and money looking for all of the parts I will need. I'm starting to make a list of things I will have to buy.
standard pistons, rings, cylinders, rear conical wheel, gasket kit, just to start with, I'm sure there will be more.
 
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Today was a bad day. I had a stuck bolt in the head and took today to take it out.
As soon as I poicked the head up I saw it... a crack...It runs into the left exhaust valve on one side and down the case on the other. So now I will be looking for a new head along with the standard cylinders, pistons and rings. Might as well go for the bearings too.
 
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shapers big project

I went back to the metal recycle center today. For $32.00 I bought another Triumph frame with engine installed. It is a 1969 T120, or what is left of one. It is only the frame and engine, nothing else. I plan to use it for the parts I may need in the future.
They told me there is yet another Triumph frame and engine somewhere in the piles of metal and will call me when they find it.
I'll try to get the picture up soon.
 

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shapers big project

I looked at the number closer and it is a 1972, same year as the first one. Now I want to see if the head, cylinder, and pistons will go into the other one. That will make my day.
I haven't found a number on the frame yet. It isn't anywhere on the front area. Maybe someone started to build a different type and just gave up.
 
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shapers big project

I had some free time today and pulled the T120 engine out of the red frame. This machine must have been in a wreck. The kick start arm was broken off and the left side case was cracked with a chunk missing above the primary chain. I removed the kick start side panel and it was full of mud, so I figured the whole thing was going to be trashed. The head came off easier than I thought it would. The pistons were at the bottom of the stroke. I then went to the left side to pull the altinator and primary chain. When I put a big wrench on the nut, the pulley turned. After removing the primary chain I could turn the crankshaft by hand. So the pistons and cylinders are in very good shape.
Now for the big question. This engine is a T120 with a 9 bolt head. the one I am trying to rebuild is a TR6R with a 8 bolt head. I'm betting I can't use them on my TR6R. So is there a market for trading the pistons, cylinders, and head for a set that I can use? Or can I use any of the items on the TR6R.
I already have have a buyer for the old red frame.
 
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This engine is a T120 with a 9 bolt head. the one I am trying to rebuild is a TR6R with a 8 bolt head. I'm betting I can't use them on my TR6R. So is there a market for trading the pistons, cylinders, and head for a set that I can use? Or can I use any of the items on the TR6R.
Why are you trying to rebuild a '72 engine with an 8-bolt top end?8-bolt stuff is pre-'63.
Keep the 9-bolt barrel and pistons and pushrod tubes to use on the '72.Get a '72 head and rockers.

Sell the 8-bolt stuff that is now becoming rare.
 
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