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04-02-2008
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Grand Prix 125 Favorite Bike: 2000 Legend
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Northeast Georgia
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Plug wires failing
I was wondering if I am about to get into a "gotcha" here. I had my #1 plug wire fail, the part that goes on the top of the plug itself got really loose and turned black like it was melting. I have Nology coils that have been in service for 4 years. No problems until last Friday. So, I bought a set of wires, replaced only the #1 wire. It was working great. Rode about 10 miles, then the #2 wire failed. Same exact thing happening. These are the original wires, 8 years old. Should I be looking for a electrical issue, or just replace all three? Is there a reason other than the things being old that this is happening?
Thanks for any and all help.
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04-02-2008
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SuperSport
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Location: New Jersey USA
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If you got 8 years out of them you're doing good. I'd replace all of them. Make sure all of the connections are clean
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04-02-2008
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Moto Grand Prix
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Location: Baltimore, Maryland, USA
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If it were me, the fact that one failed means that it's time to replace all of them.
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2005 Bonneville Blue 790cc, AI removed, Staintunes RC, Unifilter, no snorkel, 120/40/Thrux needle/1 shim/3 turns, fly screen, tacho, D9 gauge panel, center stand, Ikon 7610s, Hagon fork springs, gaiters, Pirelli Sport Demons, 3 seats.
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04-02-2008
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Grand Prix 125 Favorite Bike: 2000 Legend
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Northeast Georgia
Posts: 30
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Thanks, I will go that way.
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04-02-2008
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Grand Prix 125 Favorite Bike: 2000 Legend
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Northeast Georgia
Posts: 30
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Ok, no soap. All wires replaced, and is still having trouble with fire. The coils were replaced in 2004. Any ideas?
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04-03-2008
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Moto Grand Prix
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I'd try the coils next, going from less expensive to more expensive. Do you have working originals to try?
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Marty
2005 Bonneville Blue 790cc, AI removed, Staintunes RC, Unifilter, no snorkel, 120/40/Thrux needle/1 shim/3 turns, fly screen, tacho, D9 gauge panel, center stand, Ikon 7610s, Hagon fork springs, gaiters, Pirelli Sport Demons, 3 seats.
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04-03-2008
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Grand Prix 125 Favorite Bike: 2000 Legend
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Northeast Georgia
Posts: 30
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I got it tracked down to the leads behind coil position 3. Between the igniter and coil I think. Coils 1 and 2 are fine. I switched two of the coils, and coil position 3 does not fire no matter which coil is there. So, i'm going to check ground first and track the short. yipee.....
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04-03-2008
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Last edited by mglemans86 : 04-03-2008 at 09:21 PM.
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04-04-2008
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Grand Prix 125 Favorite Bike: 2000 Legend
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Northeast Georgia
Posts: 30
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Ok, thinking I am really in some trouble here. Seems the igniter is bad. I am wondering if it is something else. Bad pickup coil maybe? But would that cause the plug wires to fail then the igniter? A short somewhere? sheesh.
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04-16-2008
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Grand Prix 125 Favorite Bike: 2000 Legend
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Northeast Georgia
Posts: 30
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Ok, so I have replaced the wires, igniter, and ignition sensor. Still not starting. However, I have noticed it is throwing spark between the negative plug on coil number 1 and coil number 2. I'm thinking short somewhere. Anybody?
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