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11-19-2004
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Supersport 600
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Fernandina Beach, FL
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Yesterday I finally got around to installing new rear brake pads on my bonnie. The actual process was relatively easy to do, but when I tried to remove my exhaust pipe I attempted to remove the allen screw that goes from the bracket into the exhaust pipes. (I finally removed it from where the bracket attaches by the rear foot peg) The screw acted normal for a few turns, and then acted like it was stripped. There is what looks like a metal washer or plug under t that is also spinning freely. Can you strip a screw while removing it? Any suggestions on how to fix this?
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11-19-2004
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#2 (permalink)
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SuperSport
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Bonney Lake Wa.
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Usually a screw gets stripped when it's installed, you find out about it when you try to remove it.
If you can get vice grips on it try pulling back on the screw head as you try to remove it. Sometimes you can get it to bite whatever thread is left.
I've found that sometimes the washer gets flattened out or deformed and holds the bolt in place, making it appear to be stuck in the threads or stripped. You can solve that by using a flathead screwdriver between the bracket and washer, then using vice grips to pull and twist the bolt out.
If it really is stuck in there you'll need to drill the head off the bolt and knock it off with a chisel, jest try to stay centered and start small, working your way up to the bolt diameter. Don't forget to run a tap through the nut or bracket when you're done to clean up whatever caused it to stick in the first place.
Pain in the ass either way, just be patient and don't loose your temper. :-D
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stevent....."May the Goddess turn the hearts of those who hate us, if not their hearts then turn their ankles so we'll know them by their limping..."
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11-19-2004
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SuperSport
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Bonney Lake Wa.
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Usually a screw gets stripped when it's installed, you find out about it when you try to remove it.
If you can get vice grips on it try pulling back on the screw head as you try to remove it. Sometimes you can get it to bite whatever thread is left.
I've found that sometimes the washer gets flattened out or deformed and holds the bolt in place, making it appear to be stuck in the threads or stripped. You can solve that by using a flathead screwdriver between the bracket and washer, then using vice grips to pull and twist the bolt out.
If it really is stuck in there you'll need to drill the head off the bolt and knock it off with a chisel, jest try to stay centered and start small, working your way up to the bolt diameter. Don't forget to run a tap through the nut or bracket when you're done to clean up whatever caused it to stick in the first place.
Pain in the ass either way, just be patient and don't loose your temper. :-D
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stevent....."May the Goddess turn the hearts of those who hate us, if not their hearts then turn their ankles so we'll know them by their limping..."
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11-20-2004
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Super Sidecars
Join Date: May 2004
Location: San Diego, CA, USA
Posts: 79
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It sounds like the nut inside the silencer broke loose. You haven't really "stripped" the screw. It's a common occurrence on these machines. The nut is only tack welded in place, and over time, the threads of the bolt sticking through it (inside your silencer) get fouled and corroded by the exhaust. When you go to back it out, it turns nicely at first, but when the fouled threads hit the nut, it binds. Continued pressure eventually breaks the tack welds holding the nut in place. Voila! instant frustration!
There is no easy fix for this once the nut is loose. just cut or drill off the bolt head, then drill out the nut. You can get rivnuts to replace them at any good automotive supply.
Alternatively, if the silencer is back on the bike, and the other bolt is tightened nicely, you can run several tourniqets of piano wire between the "spinning washer" and the bracket to "tighten" it for a temporary fix. I bought a used machine with this done to it- it felt solid and looked like it had been done quite a while ago.
good luck-
M
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(Wonders if that was too much info. Lighting up, He shrugs and hits submit anyway...)
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11-20-2004
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#5 (permalink)
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Super Sidecars
Join Date: May 2004
Location: San Diego, CA, USA
Posts: 79
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It sounds like the nut inside the silencer broke loose. You haven't really "stripped" the screw. It's a common occurrence on these machines. The nut is only tack welded in place, and over time, the threads of the bolt sticking through it (inside your silencer) get fouled and corroded by the exhaust. When you go to back it out, it turns nicely at first, but when the fouled threads hit the nut, it binds. Continued pressure eventually breaks the tack welds holding the nut in place. Voila! instant frustration!
There is no easy fix for this once the nut is loose. just cut or drill off the bolt head, then drill out the nut. You can get rivnuts to replace them at any good automotive supply.
Alternatively, if the silencer is back on the bike, and the other bolt is tightened nicely, you can run several tourniqets of piano wire between the "spinning washer" and the bracket to "tighten" it for a temporary fix. I bought a used machine with this done to it- it felt solid and looked like it had been done quite a while ago.
good luck-
M
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(Wonders if that was too much info. Lighting up, He shrugs and hits submit anyway...)
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11-20-2004
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#6 (permalink)
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Supersport 600
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Fernandina Beach, FL
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Unfortunately I think CityRides assessment of my situation may be true. Either way I guess I must Remove the offending bolt to find out. The good news is That there is another mounting hole next to it where a second bolt was supposed to be. The unused hole looks like there should be some form of plug (I.E. my spinning "washer") in it's place. Perhaps the wisest plan may be to add the additional bolt in that place and not worry about the other until I can afford the new exhaust pipe (headers and silencers) I have been drooling over for about a year. Thank you for your Help
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Jesus Hoffa
"It is better to be hated for what you are, than to be loved for something you are not"
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11-20-2004
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#7 (permalink)
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Senior Member
Supersport 600
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Fernandina Beach, FL
Posts: 166
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Unfortunately I think CityRides assessment of my situation may be true. Either way I guess I must Remove the offending bolt to find out. The good news is That there is another mounting hole next to it where a second bolt was supposed to be. The unused hole looks like there should be some form of plug (I.E. my spinning "washer") in it's place. Perhaps the wisest plan may be to add the additional bolt in that place and not worry about the other until I can afford the new exhaust pipe (headers and silencers) I have been drooling over for about a year. Thank you for your Help
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Jesus Hoffa
"It is better to be hated for what you are, than to be loved for something you are not"
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