Triumphrat

smdl · 08-20-2004

I'm rebuilding a '96 Sprint and am converting it to a Speed Triple look. Accordingly, I need an upper yoke (triple clamp) that has the mounting points for the classic-style gauges.

I can do this by sourcing an upper yoke from an S3, but I am thinking of using an LSL bar conversion kit to go to a tubular bar. See:

http://www.streetfighters-usa.com/ls..._yokes_tri.htm

Now, for the problem:

The frame I have is a '96 Sprint, but it was missing the front end, so I have located a complete from end from a Super III (yes, it has the carbon goodies and the 6-pot brakes

).

So, I think that the correct solution would be to use the '95-'96 Speed Triple kit from LSL, (comes with the whole new yoke) but I am concerned about any differences in geometry between the Speed Triple and Daytona front ends. Does anyone know if a S3 upper and a Daytona lower will match?

I'm pretty sure that this will be fine, but just thought I'd ask for some input before I spend the big (US) bucks. Any help is much appreciated!

Shaun

Hinckley · 08-20-2004

I'm not 100% sure, maybe 95%, but I don't think there is any difference in the geometry from the S3 to the Daytona.

mathbeak · 08-21-2004

Another SpeedTriple?? Are you going to build a mini S3 Evan-sized bike as well???

Alan

smdl · 08-21-2004

Good afternoon, Mr. Beak!

The Speed Triple went to fund the move to our new home, so I now have a project Sprint to play with. Lot's of fun!

Hope all is well with you. Will we see you for the Ucluelet ride?

Shaun

smdl · 01-09-2005

I just thought I'd tie up a loose end, here. Guess what? There is a difference in geometry! So, after investing in the very expensive LSL kit for the Speed Triple, I then had to go get a Speed Triple lower yoke to go with it. *sigh*

LSL does offer a bar kit for the Daytona (which would have worked) but it uses adaptors instead of a whole new upper yoke. Not as nice, in my opinion.

Shaun

Hinckley · 01-09-2005

I'm sorry for the misinformation. I'm surprised to say the least.

What differences do you see? Is the rake different?

akells · 01-09-2005

the LSL kit for the older triples is a great kit, ive done quite a few of them and the work out quite well.

MickMaguire · 01-11-2005

Quote:

On 2004-08-20 18:22, smdl wrote:
I have located a complete from end from a Super III (yes, it has the carbon goodies and the 6-pot brakes

).

where the heck do you find such things - I have been on the lookout for an alternate front end for my Tbird as long as I can remember and I have had very little success. (whine over) :-D

smdl · 01-14-2005

Hinckley,

No worries about the input you gave. I asked for advice and you told me what you thought. You even said that you weren't 100% sure. Can't ask for much more than that!

What was different was that the fore/aft offset between the centre of the steering stem and the fork tubes is shorter for the Speed Triple than on the Super III (by about 1/8", I would estimate). I guess that this would increase wheelbase slightly, and it might also increase trail? I don't think that the rake changes, as I think that this a product of steering head angle, isn't it? I guess you can tell that I'm not a suspension engineer. :razz:

In any case, I think that the intention is that this difference gives the Speed Triple quicker handling and the Super III more stability.

Mick,

I literally lucked out on this one. When I first got this project, I started looking everywhere (literally) for parts, and just happeded to call a local bike dismantler on a lark. I had zero hopes that they would have anything, as they really don't stock anything newer than about 1980 (except for Harley stuff).

So, I wasn't surprised whn I called and the guy answering the phone said "Oh, no, we don't have anything that new.". I was surprised, however, when he said "Wait a minute, there's a complete front end from a '96 Triumph 3 here that looks really cool! Ever heard of one of those?".

So I went down to find out what a "Triumph 3" was (expecting a Trident, or something), and was very pleased to discover that they were dismantling an entire Super III! Since then, I've purchased a number of parts, and have steered a few people locally to go get some more.

The best thing is that this place is only about 5 minutes from my house! What are they chances of that?

Shaun

ps: Is there any way I can receive email notification when someone posts to a thread that I have posted to or am interested in? It would be nice to know when there is additional info rather than having to remember which threads I aminvolved in. Thanks.

[ This message was edited by: smdl on 2005-01-14 20:32 ]

smdl · 01-14-2005

Hinckley,

No worries about the input you gave. I asked for advice and you told me what you thought. You even said that you weren't 100% sure. Can't ask for much more than that!

What was different was that the fore/aft offset between the centre of the steering stem and the fork tubes is shorter for the Speed Triple than on the Super III (by about 1/8", I would estimate). I guess that this would increase wheelbase slightly, and it might also increase trail? I don't think that the rake changes, as I think that this a product of steering head angle, isn't it? I guess you can tell that I'm not a suspension engineer. :razz:

In any case, I think that the intention is that this difference gives the Speed Triple quicker handling and the Super III more stability.

Mick,

I literally lucked out on this one. When I first got this project, I started looking everywhere (literally) for parts, and just happeded to call a local bike dismantler on a lark. I had zero hopes that they would have anything, as they really don't stock anything newer than about 1980 (except for Harley stuff).

So, I wasn't surprised whn I called and the guy answering the phone said "Oh, no, we don't have anything that new.". I was surprised, however, when he said "Wait a minute, there's a complete front end from a '96 Triumph 3 here that looks really cool! Ever heard of one of those?".

So I went down to find out what a "Triumph 3" was (expecting a Trident, or something), and was very pleased to discover that they were dismantling an entire Super III! Since then, I've purchased a number of parts, and have steered a few people locally to go get some more.

The best thing is that this place is only about 5 minutes from my house! What are they chances of that?

Shaun

ps: Is there any way I can receive email notification when someone posts to a thread that I have posted to or am interested in? It would be nice to know when there is additional info rather than having to remember which threads I aminvolved in. Thanks.

[ This message was edited by: smdl on 2005-01-14 20:32 ]