Triumphrat

Railmonkey · 09-23-2012, 05:05 PM

Posted earlier in wrong section. Just bought this today for $1,100 from original owner not sure what model this is other than a twin. Not original forks or handlebars but everything else is genuine. Turns over but electrics are shot. Plan to strip down and either bring back to all genuine or go another route and do a custom. It's a 1968 model 650. Nice winter project. Can anyone easily I'd the model?

DAVE M · 09-24-2012, 08:27 AM

I can't tell what it is, but if you look on the LHS by the headstock, the frame number should be there, (unless it's covered in bondo)

This should match the engine number that's at the base of the cylinders on the LHS

You should have a model number first

epynt1050 · 09-24-2012, 08:33 AM

Looks like a 1969 Model TR6R

Railmonkey · 09-26-2012, 11:47 AM

What is the best approach? I was looking at a chopper kit but then you lose the frame number association and it is not cheap. So I'll keep original and I'm thinking I'll powder coat the frame and wheels in some fancy non-genuine colour.

I've done some engine work many moons ago, have some decent tools but perhaps not the specific ones for the triumph. Is it better to take apart the engine and part out any work that needs to be done or to send the complete engine and transmission out to a shop? Any idea of the cost to overhaul these? Worst case, best case range?

I have my own shot blast equip but these parts look like they need some serious tlc. Time wise I'm in no hurry and looking for something to do over the winter but I don't want to get in over my head either

Railmonkey · 09-29-2012, 10:05 PM

Got the bike today and it is a tr6r. The owner said it was a t100 is that the same thing? Stripped e bike down to frame and engine. Two problems tho, can't get exhaust off, both seem stuck to the heads, thinking to cut the pipes and wrestle with it when on the bench. Also the front yokes won't budge, I need to have the lower yoke go down to take off the forks but they don't budge. Again thinking of cutting them off and wrestling on the bench. The forks and exhaust pipes are not in good shape and I won't reuse anyway.

triumpt120rv · 09-30-2012, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Railmonkey

I've done some engine work many moons ago, have some decent tools but perhaps not the specific ones for the triumph. Is it better to take apart the engine and part out any work that needs to be done or to send the complete engine and transmission out to a shop? Any idea of the cost to overhaul these? Worst case, best case range?

Is there a specific reason why you are taking the engine/transmission apart?

P.S. If you make a chopper the bike will have less value than if you restore to stock.

P.S.S. Try spraying in some ATF/Kerosene mix and letting sit for pipes and forks or some heat. Try not to cut anything if you can. You would be surprised how salvageable/valuable 40 year old Triumph parts can be.

epynt1050 · 09-30-2012, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Railmonkey

Got the bike today and it is a tr6r. The owner said it was a t100 is that the same thing?

TR6R is a 650cc. The T100 is the 500cc equivalent.

GrandPaulZ · 09-30-2012, 07:47 AM

It's much easier to remove stuck parts from the bike while they are still attached to hundreds of pounds of ballast.

And, as T120RV said, you'd be suprised...

Oh, if you are looking at a parts diagram AND a shop manual, disassembly (and reassembly) are much easier.

DAVE M · 09-30-2012, 08:31 AM

I read your post about the forks to indicate that you're trying to remove the lower yoke ?
(nice that you don't use "triple tree")

You should remove the top yoke and this will allow the rest of the forks to be dropped out.

as GPZ says, get a parts book and workshop manual. Also get a set of the correct tools

In the UK £50 would get you a full set of spanners and sockets plus.

Don't cut anything. Even if you don't want the yokes, someone will pay good money for them -you can use that cash for your project. Or keep the unwanted parts as selling them with the modified bike will add to it's value and allow restoration.

The motto is

"never get rid of anything, your ebay purchase will always be more knackered than the bit that you took off, and twice as expensive."

Railmonkey · 09-30-2012, 09:52 AM

Thanks I did remove top yoke and it came off that way. I have the manual at work and ordered the cd on engine rebuilding. It's a genuine barn find complete with mouse nest in side panel. I have everything off except the engine and exhaust. I am looking at a very dirty rusted engine covered in muck. So I'm trying to figure out what to do next, all casings will need cleaning and polishing so I assumed I would be taking everything apart to do this. Then I would check the pistons, sleeves, etc Not decided if I should do this or send out to a shop to overhaul? I have most tools but Murphy,s law says I won't have the correct ones when needed. I think next ill clean the engine, remove from frame and start stripping down.
The bike had 20k miles on it from original owner.