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Old 09-17-2004, 11:55 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hoops, hides, skins or just plain tires. Tire reviews and experinces

Had to break down and get a new set yesterday and went with the Metz Z6's. Heard good things about them so thought I'd give them a try. Will let you know how things go. So far just the long way home from the dealer initial impressions are. These are comparing to the BT57's.

Only have 15 miles so far and not scuffed in but turn in seems a bit harder but once in is stable and stays to a line. Where the old would fall in and I'd have to counter-counter steer to hold the same line in the same corner.

Doesn't seem to "track" or follow road imperfections.

Today they will get their wet test.

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Old 09-20-2004, 12:23 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Was able to put in 100 miles today all in the rain. I was able to only put on about 15 miles the day I got them in the dry so still don't have them scrubbed in properly.

So far I am pretty impressed especially in the wet. I took one of my favorite 25mph posted 90' turns at 50 in the rain which was normal for the old BT57's in the dry. No wiggles, drama they just stuck.

Very smooth running and as I said earlier they doesn't seem to track pavement imperfections but stay on course.

I'm getting used to the turn in and find it not bad just different. (rounded profile as was mentioned earlier.) But the nice thing is that Instead of having to stop the lean with these you just go to the angle and it stops where you want it to and holds that. Or you can change if you need or want, no fuss.

I was very interested in the wet handling since in Oregon if you don't ride in the rain you don't ride and I didn't want a tire that would curtail my fun. I think so far these will do fine.

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Old 10-04-2004, 02:23 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I had the Z6's on a BMW. They were great in the wet. I rode in some nasty midwest thunder storms with them and never had a problem. I'll probably go with them when my BT57's wear out. I agree with your observation on the way they take to a corner. Pick an angle, pick a line and they just do it.

The BT57's just feel weird. Sometimes I think they're doing more of the driving than I am.
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Old 10-05-2004, 11:32 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Another update. So far I've put in about 400 miles on the hides and have them pretty well scrubbed in side to side.

The wet grip is great. Not only in the pouring down rain but also in the nether world of fog and mist where the pavement is damp both in lean and straight up.

In the dry in some rougher corners where the BT57's would have some trouble even fairly fresh such as front chatter and walking and the rear stepping out or just plain drifting. The Z6's exhibited none of these problems or tendencies and just stuck to the game plan.

The slow and fast corners where the pavement is good and smooth are no brainers.

I'm liking these because unlike the BT57's where I would have to accommodate myself to the tires the Z6's seem more than willing to accommodate themselves to me.
I have a tendency to push the front and I'm also finding that the front tire is doing a good job of talking to me and so far it hasn't been complaining.

I'm running 36 / 38 psi Ft/Rear. So far this has been working out fine but will juggle the pressures a bit to experiment.

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Old 10-11-2004, 03:15 PM   #5 (permalink)
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In this months UK Ride mag there is a whole section devoted to a rider survey, amongst the test was a tyre survey by members of the public (not riding press) The following results may be of interest.

BT020 9 place out of 50 different tyres
Avon Azaro ST 11/50
BT 57 28/50
Michelin MAc 100 39/50
Mezt 3 42/50
Mezt 4 46/50

The z6 are not mentioned, I assume that they are too new.
I'm pleased with my BT 020 alot smoother in the bends and warm up quickly.
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Old 10-14-2004, 02:02 PM   #6 (permalink)
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The top ten in the tyre ratings as per my last post are.

1. BT012ss
2. Diablo Corsa
3. Pilot Sport
4. Metz Rennsport
5. Diablo
6. BT014
7. Super Corsa
8. Dragon Evo Corsa
9.***BT020***(which alot of us use)
10. Metz Tourance

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Old 10-20-2004, 10:22 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Another little update. Haven't been able to ride lately so only about 500 total miles so far.

Lately we've gotten into the start of our wet season so have been able to see the wet, dry, wet transitions in corners. Very good. One corner was a 35 mph advisory. Went X2+5 starting in the dry and in the blind went through a wet area for about 40 yards and back into the dry.

The wet handling was very important to me and I can say that they have been exceeding my expectations by a wide margin.

Dry is very sticky for a touring tire also.

Corners and curves you pick a speed, line and angle and the bike just goes there. Want or need to change your line, just look where you want to go. They track pretty accurately.

I'm glad I got them

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Old 10-26-2004, 09:06 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I've put a set of the Continental Road Attacks on mine. With almost 6k miles on the back and almost 3k on the front. I like them so far. I like them better than the BT57s. And I really didn't have any complaints about the BT57s except for the way the cupped.

General comments:

They haven't cupped like the BT57s did. They have done well in the rain. They grip well in the corners. The front is better planted with the Road Attack than it is with the BT57. I guess my only complaint is if you are in a corner and use the front brake, the bike likes to stand up. However, it doesn't stand up when I trail brake. They have worn pretty good so far. No cupping that I can tell. I still have a good amount of tread left. I imagine I'll get about the same mileage out of them as I did my BT57s of which I got 8.5k (tread bars were just starting to show) off of the rear and 11.5k off of the front. However, the front still had some tread left. But it was cupped pretty badly.

I can't compare them against anything else except for the BT57s.

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Old 11-23-2004, 07:24 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I know have 7k on my rear continental road attack. It is a sticky tire. When ever I stop and touch the tire, its warm and has that sticky feel to it. Still have a bit of rubber left. No wear bars yet. Though when I checked the tire depth about 1k miles ago, I had used up about 1/2 the tread depth. It looks like I should be able to get 8.5k out of the rear like I did the BT57.

The tires still ride real nice and I don't have any compliants, except I need more twisties as they have flattened out a little in the back

I've run them here in the DC area over the last few months, in all sorts of weather (hot, cold, wet) and I don't have any complaints.

A caveat is that I can only compare them against the BT57s. They feel more stable and haven't deveoped that cupped whining noise I got with the BT57s.
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I haven't had a whole bunch of mile lately but what they have been has been all wet.

My feeling on the Z6's is still the same. These are very confidence inspiring wet or dry. There may be others that are stickyer in the dry but These are no slouches and I haven't heard of any better in the wet.

Also being a more rounded profile you just set your speed and angle in the corners with very little to no corrections or falling or out.

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