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10-27-2008, 01:12 AM
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Bake-on finish for motorcycle parts?
When I worked in law enforcement a few years ago, I did quite a bit of gunsmithing in my spare time. I refinished several firearms, including my own service weapons, with a bake-on teflon-moly coating from Brownells.com that comes in a spray can. The parts in need of refinishing were either blasted or buffed with a wire wheel, degreased, heated to around 100 degrees Fahrenheit, sprayed with the coating while warm and allowed to air dry, then baked in a kitchen oven at around 350 degrees for about 30 minutes.
Once baked on, the finish was permanent, impervious to rust, saltwater, and solvents, self-leveling, and self-lubricating thanks to the teflon in the formula. The parts required additional blasting or buffing to remove it from the metal. It also had the ability to hide small pits and scratches in the metal as well.
I thought about this product when I read a post about chromed saddlebag supports. One person who replied to the post wrote that chrome made the supports stand out where they should "disappear" and not be readily noticed. As I looked at several rusted screws on my own 01 Thunderbird, this product kept coming to mind.
The teflon-moly coating is available from Brownell's in a variety of colors including flat and gloss black and a matte silver (that mimics bead-blasted stainless steel). It works on carbon and stainless steels and, If memory serves me correctly, even aluminum parts.
FWIW, I'm going to try it out on some of my rusted screws, but I thought I'd pass this along to others who might need to touch up or refinish some parts on their bikes. As long as the parts are properly prepared and the instructions are followed, I can't think of any reason why some nice results can't be achieved.
Last edited by Shadowofleaves : 10-28-2008 at 08:11 PM.
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10-28-2008, 07:34 AM
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I wonder how the coating would hold up on exhaust headers.
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10-28-2008, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by BigAl8295
I wonder how the coating would hold up on exhaust headers.
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I'm not sure how the finish will hold up under sustained high temps, but I do know that HK MP5 submachine guns and others have a very similar finish on the barrel which becomes hot as hell in full auto mode and the finish holds up in that application with no problem.
Last edited by Shadowofleaves : 10-28-2008 at 08:11 PM.
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10-31-2008, 11:17 PM
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11-12-2008, 12:51 PM
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Bake on coating
Did the coating leave any odour in the kitchen oven after baking?
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11-14-2008, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by nfldrunner
Did the coating leave any odour in the kitchen oven after baking?
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None that I recall, or at least not anything offensive that would cause my spouse to verbalize her discontent :-)
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11-27-2008, 10:24 PM
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It will be interesting to see if it'll hold up to the low maintenance received for motorcycle nuts and bolts. I'm ever so thoughtful about putting away a firearm with thoughts of moisture and scratching.
Not much beats powdercoat which needs about 425f for low maintenance protection. If you want beauty, have someone else do it. If you want flat black but not necessarily perfection, do it yourself. I have a harbor freight application unit $68??. I did luck into a good buy; a digital lab oven for only 50.00 but a regular oven will work just fine. I don't bother with it much as I'm not particularly fastidious, but from time to time I coat a bunch of pieces.
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12-21-2008, 01:51 AM
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Teflon/Moly oven cure gun finish; have you tried it yet?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadowofleaves
When I worked in law enforcement a few years ago, I did quite a bit of gunsmithing in my spare time. I refinished several firearms, including my own service weapons, with a bake-on teflon-moly coating from Brownells.com that comes in a spray can. The parts in need of refinishing were either blasted or buffed with a wire wheel, degreased, heated to around 100 degrees Fahrenheit, sprayed with the coating while warm and allowed to air dry, then baked in a kitchen oven at around 350 degrees for about 30 minutes.
Once baked on, the finish was permanent, impervious to rust, saltwater, and solvents, self-leveling, and self-lubricating thanks to the teflon in the formula. The parts required additional blasting or buffing to remove it from the metal. It also had the ability to hide small pits and scratches in the metal as well.
I thought about this product when I read a post about chromed saddlebag supports. One person who replied to the post wrote that chrome made the supports stand out where they should "disappear" and not be readily noticed. As I looked at several rusted screws on my own 01 Thunderbird, this product kept coming to mind.
The teflon-moly coating is available from Brownell's in a variety of colors including flat and gloss black and a matte silver (that mimics bead-blasted stainless steel). It works on carbon and stainless steels and, If memory serves me correctly, even aluminum parts.
FWIW, I'm going to try it out on some of my rusted screws, but I thought I'd pass this along to others who might need to touch up or refinish some parts on their bikes. As long as the parts are properly prepared and the instructions are followed, I can't think of any reason why some nice results can't be achieved.
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http://www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/sto...il.aspx?p=1145
time has passed. have you tried the Teflon/Moly oven cure gun finish yet? Looking for a followup report if available. It sounds so much easier than powder-coating.
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12-21-2008, 03:50 PM
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I've found the Teflon/Moly coat to be very easy to work with and almost mistake proof as long as the directions are followed and the parts are properly prepped. I've had the coating on my service 1911 for over 5 years and it still looks like the day it came out of the oven. I have a few rusted bolts on my 01 T-bird (namely the ones that hold on the pannier supports) that I need to do something about. I just simply haven't found the time to order the stuff from Brownell's to do it with. I see no reason why the teflon/moly wouldn't hold up on minor parts such as these...I'm just not 100% sure about high temp parts applications like exhausts and such. Still, I would speculate that it would hold up pretty well considering the abuse I've personally seen an HK MP5 submachine gun take. The MP5 has the same type of finish on it and I've seen the barrels smoking on more than one with no ill effects on the finish.
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