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04-01-2005, 01:52 AM
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Hi there. I just put a jet kit on my speed triple and need to adjust the mixture screws on the bottom of the carbs.
What tool can I use to do this so that the motorcycle is running and I don't burn your fingers completely off my hand?
I am hoping someone out there has a creative solution other than "go to the dealer". The dealer is sick of seeing me come in for $2 parts for my carbs
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04-01-2005, 10:50 AM
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I just saw one in the Whitehorse Press catalog. And I know Motion-pro Tools sells one too.
j98sprint
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04-01-2005, 12:35 PM
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Flat head screw driver bit, a piece of rubber fuel line, the type that is nylon braided.
Cut a piece of fuel pipe app' 3/4" long and push it onto the bit, then get a needle and paint, (i use model enamel) 1/4 the pipe with paint marks, bingo.
On my Trophy I can do two from the right hand side and the other from the left with no burnt hands.
At most it would probably cost you a buck 50.
Or if you're feeling extremely flush you could buy Triumph's own service tool from your dealer.
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04-01-2005, 01:42 PM
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I use a screwdriver bit also, but count the flats by feel as I turn it. That way you get 6 divisions per turn.
If you are careful you can turn it with finger & thumb without sustaining 3rd degree burns.
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04-01-2005, 04:19 PM
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I must be missing something here - If ever I tweak mine I just wait until the engine is cold.
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04-01-2005, 11:26 PM
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Aww....Mick, you take all the fun out of wrenchin... :-D
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04-02-2005, 03:37 AM
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Quote:
On 2005-04-01 14:19, MickMaguire wrote:
If ever I tweak mine I just wait until the engine is cold.
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And then you generate your own heat :wink: :wink: say no more. :-D
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04-02-2005, 01:34 PM
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The point of tweaking them when hot is that you get instant feedback (via the idle speed) as to whether the tweak was a good idea or not. At the optimum mix the idle will be highest.
That is assuming the tweaking is experimental, and not just setting them back to stock.
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04-07-2005, 07:20 PM
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I purchased the motion pro tool, it works but barely on my TBS. The centre carb has minimal clearance and the bend in the tool is too long. If I attempt to adjust the middle carb, I have to lever the screwdriver in and the pressure of this 'jacks' the carb up about 1/4-1/2". You also tend to loose all feel with the setting and cannot tell if the screwdriver tip is engaged in the slot or not. I would NOT recommend this tool for a TBS. It is probably OK on other models.
For sale = one motion pro screwdriver for adjusting centre carbs.
I'll be buying a workshop one I reckon.
PS Tried the rubber hose idea, not a real goer for the TBS either, not enough room and the tip wants to escape out of the mixture screw shroud
[ This message was edited by: tridentt150v on 2005-04-09 19:59 ]
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04-08-2005, 10:35 AM
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Quote:
On 2005-04-02 11:34, Slinky wrote:
The point of tweaking them when hot is that you get instant feedback (via the idle speed) as to whether the tweak was a good idea or not. At the optimum mix the idle will be highest.
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You are right on that point of course Slinky. I guess I dont do all that much tweaking and just do it over a much longer period. Like several days adjusting in small (1/6 - 1/3 of a turn) increments then looking at the idle, taking note of which way it went and adjusting as necessary. I also note how it rode after each adjustment.
I must admit I just picked up the motion pro tool cheap on ebay just because it was cheap. However, from tridentt150v's comments I may still use my wait till it gets cold method. :-D
[ This message was edited by: MickMaguire on 2005-04-08 08:37 ]
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