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cyco1450

I've always bought Craftsman tools for their lifetime warranty. The few times i've had something break, it was a simple exchange. The other day I had a ratchet handle strip out. Went to Sears to exchange it and was told that now they only give "refurbed" tools. To make it worse, the salesperson went into a box of tools under the counter and pulled out a "refurbed" ratchet....which was nothing more than another broken one that was returned. I immediately refused to accept that. The employee kept me waiting 15 minutes until he got "management approval" to give me a new one off the shelf. Finally I got it.
Do not accept junk. It is not legal for them to do this when they sold lifetime warranties with the item new.
Caveat emptor!

duncan67

they have brand new internals,I dont see what the big deal is. I have done this a few times and never thought twice about accepting the refurb.

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Cburt

Agree its got new internals but that's not what the warrantee states.
They are going to get a black eye on this practice.
Use to be they had a great tool with the best warrantee.
Lots of competition these days.

duncan67

They have been doing that for over ten years in my neck of the woods. Its not a new practice.I also suggest you read how there warranty states things in this link. Though I did not read it 100% for the most part they promise to repair or replace..http://www.craftsman.com/cswarranty/nb-100000000227082

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Felony

Sears' tools used to be American made as well. Everything has changed.

Demonic

If it's "repair or replace", then really they have every right to give you a refurbished one. Unless you rather they take yours away and try the following fix it, however long that takes...

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duncan67

If the whole american made thing means that much then maybe us americans should all be on Harlys?
Just thinking about that,,,,,,,,,I wander if all the assembly tools in the harly plant are american made? Why do I have a feeling there tool room guys buy the cheap stuff just like the machine shop I work at does?

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Felony

I wasn't really harping on American made meaning better. I'm fine with non-American made products that are of good quality. I just know that my tools that were made in the '40-'50s are better in quality than most made today, right down to the quality of steel and feel of the tool. I look at my older Craftsman tools vs ones made today and can see and feel the difference. I'm a furnituremaker and I tend not to buy American made woodworking tools made today vs European brands, even if the Euro brands are out sourced as well.

Dan McGrath

You just can't get good sausage any more either.......

Moogs

True. That's why I roll my own now:






Buy snap-on. It will last you a lifetime like Craftsman tools supposedly used to.

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