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10-18-2012, 12:49 AM
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SuperStock Main Motorcycle: 06 bonneville hardtail
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Pinckney
Posts: 271 Other Motorcycle: looking
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What type of gasoline ?
Does the Hinckley Bonnevilles need Hi-octane gas?,previous owner said "regular" jells up after a while,anyone else have that problem?
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10-18-2012, 01:34 AM
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Site Supporter Legend Main Motorcycle: '04 Sprint RS
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 11,297 Other Motorcycle: 2000 Sprint ST Extra Motorcycle: '77/'82 Suzuki GS550/650
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Octane is a measure of how hard something is to ignite. The higher the number, the harder it is to burn. High octane is not high quality. Or low quality. It's just harder to burn. Regular gasoline will gel up if you heat it in a double boiler and mix in Ivory Snow flaked soap, but so will "Premium." Neither will gel under normal circumstances.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octane_number
I don't know the particular ins and outs of the twin motors, but almost everything to come out of Hinckley has been spec'ed to run on mid-grade. That's 89 octane by the (RON+MON)/2 number we use here in the states. Not sure where Pinckney is, but if it's the UK or some other place that uses the RON number then 95 is the spec. If you want to get technical, the proper octane to run in a given motor is the lowest that doesn't cause premature detonation (AKA knocking or pinging).
Cheers,
-Kit
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10-18-2012, 01:54 PM
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Site Supporter Legend Main Motorcycle: 2009 Bonneville SE
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10-18-2012, 04:50 PM
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Grand Prix 500 Main Motorcycle: 2005 Bonneville Black
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Rio Grande Valley, TX
Posts: 112 Extra Motorcycle: 1975 CB550F Cafe'
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I wasn't paying attention one day and accidentally put regular unleaded in my 05 Bon Bonnie instead of Premium. The poor girl ran like a dog and died in a Walmart parking lot. I am not sure if it was the regular, just bad gas, or maybe some dirt in the carb but after emptying the bowls, throwing in some octane booster, and cranking up the idler she came to life. Even though I don't completely know if it was the regular or not, I still go Premium at all times now.
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10-24-2012, 09:19 AM
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Formula Extreme Main Motorcycle: 2011 Street Triple R
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Cheshire, UK
Posts: 572
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You'll find it very hard to measure, but regular actually delivers a tiny bit more power than premium - unless you advance the ignition timing a touch, but if you do that and then run regular you could hole a piston.
Don't know what your problem was, but it wasn't running regular.
Rob
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10-27-2012, 05:25 PM
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Grand Prix 125 Main Motorcycle: Speed Triple R
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sydney
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I have seen gasoline gel up after a bike has been in storage for years. It can become almost like a varnish, especially in carbs and fuel taps. Then it is a bastard to clean out. However, storing a bike for long periods without proper preparation is never a good idea for a whole host of reasons, including what happens to residual fuel. Unless the bike will be sitting idle for months you will be fine.
As for the right gasoline to use, the quality and true octane varies by country, region and even gas station. I have had my share of bad gas when I have filled up from somewhere I don't usually go and ended up with water or dirt in the fuel. That is entirely different to octane performance. All I can say to help is that my '07 carbed Bonnie with slipons and airbox removal kit will run on anything you fill her up with. I live in Sydney Australia, so the gas will be somewhat different to what you get but I would think that any mid-range gas would do just fine.
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11-05-2012, 06:46 AM
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Powerbike Main Motorcycle: 2007 T-100
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Tampa Bay, Florida
Posts: 320 Other Motorcycle: XS 650 on going project
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Gasoline
My 2007 carbed Bonnie LOVES non-ethanol gas. Call your local marina if you cannot find it at a regular gas station.
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11-05-2012, 08:13 AM
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Grand Prix 250 Main Motorcycle: 2012 Bonneville Mag Wheel
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Gatineau, Quebec Canada
Posts: 78
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I live in Canada.
I have run 87 & 89 in my 2012 Bonneville and didn't notice any difference.
I run 87 now.
For winter storage, I fill it with 87 and add stabilizer.
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01-28-2013, 03:30 AM
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Grand Prix 125
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 26
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Doesn't the manual say to use premium? I always used premium because I thought it was required.
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01-29-2013, 11:20 AM
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SOTP Vintage Series Main Motorcycle: 2005 Bonneville Blue 790
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Central Maryland, USA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LuckyG23
Doesn't the manual say to use premium? I always used premium because I thought it was required.
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No. It says to use 87 (US) octane.
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2005 Bonneville Blue 790cc, AI removed, Staintunes RC, Uni filter, no snorkel, 118/40/NBZT "Thruxton" needles/1 shim/3 turns, tachometer, Ikon 7610s, Ricor Intiminators, Dunlop GT501s, D9 gauge panel.
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