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Old 04-10-2005   #1 (permalink)
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Help.

Out playing on nice twisty roads with my TBS '04 when things start to go wrong. Suddenly the bike sound like a twin and loose power. My guess "in flight" is that it's one of the cylinders not firing properly (or at all). I stop the bike for a while and it works fine again.

On the freeway back into town it drops in power again and dies totally when I stop at a light. I'm just home after lots of stops in bad places like tunnels and very busy streets.

Please help me, what can be the problem? Something I can fix easily myself or a workshop thing? When the engine is cool it works fine. Suddenly it sounds different and power drops radically. My (very newbie) guess is either dirt in one of the carbs or a bad sparkplug... The bike is new and has 4000 kilometers on the meter. It has spent a few months in a heated garage during the winter. No problem at all before this. Any ideas?

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Hi sorry to hear about your problem,was the bike stored with fuel in the tank if so you might have old fuel syndrome and might need to strip down the carbs, there are some very informative posts on this subject just put it in search. Ride safe Ben :chug:
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Dirty carbs rairly kill one cylender sporadically. However, carb cleaning is a good idea if you store it with fuel in the carbs.
Could you smell gas at all when it was fouling up?

I think I'd check your plugs, wires and coils. One coil can go out, and these have show up in several posts her in the forum.
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Start your bike and then pull the plug wires off one at a time. If you pull one off, and nothing changes, it is your coil.
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The ol failing coil syndrom should be considered.
Try the switcheroo.
I think on screwy carb could do it too.
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Mats, that's exactly the symptom my bike had when a coil failed -- changing from a three-cylinder beast to a tired little twin mouse. :wink:

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Mats, everytime someone posts with the problem you are describing, they get the response of "Coil problem". It MAY be this, BUT, it may equally be accumulated crud in the fuel system. When it happened to me this was the cause. And yes crud in the fuel system CAN result in 'firing on two intermittently" as you described (actually mine also became an intermittent single). It takes "Very" little crud to cause the problem. I'd suggest that you remove the float bowls to check. There is also a tiny little in-line fuel filter *inside* the fuel line, just behind the 't' piece, behind the carbs. Pull off the pipe & check this little filter. Virtually any crud there will result in your symptoms. I already had an extra fuel filter fitted near to the tap, but the very fine sediment that got through to the inline filter was enough to spoil things. FWIW, the easiest way to get the float bowls off, is to remove the carbs as one 'bank'. Leave the throttle cable attached as it's a b******d to re-fit at the carb end. Providing you don't alter any carb settings whilst doing this, you should be able to bolt them right back on, without need to 're-tune'.
If the mifiring happens when out on the road, one thing that helped me get home, was stopping at fuel stations & squirting a little compressed air up through the drain tubes on the carbs. This allowed the accumulated crud to be temporarily displaced, & the bike would run ok for a while longer, until the crud settled again.
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What Jimmyj900 says, and it's typical for a lot of electric failures to appear when components get hot. As you say, it seems fine when cold, but after reaching a certain temperature, it fails. Classic. Happened to me, both bike and car.

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Btw, your warranty should cover it, so get your bike to the shop....
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If its the coil traditionally it will happen once the bike has warmed up. If its crud in the carb it will happen sooner.
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matt ...check that pick up coil.....it seems that guy from rider magazine (andy something)..anwsers that question frequently...take off that cover (fight side) cant remember exactly where..follow wires...and heat it up with a heat gun or haif dryer...if it misfires then thats ur problem...then u can cool it with a can of computer air (compressed air in a can ) ....good luck ....let us know ......tom[*]null
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