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Hinckley Classic Triples 885cc Classic Styled T3's: Legend, Thunderbird, Thunderbird Sport & Adventurer.

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Old 06-25-2008, 03:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Replacing starter brushes

Hey All,

Based on my reading around here, I think I am at the point where I have to replace the brushes, if not the entire starter on my '01 Adventurer:

1. I was getting the solenoid click a couple of weeks ago. Cleaned out the contacts and regreased them, she started great for about five days.

2. Back to the click (no turn over). However, if I put it in gear and rocked the bike, she'd start up fine. (Side note; how does engaging the clutch plate free up the starter mechanism?)

3. Last night, did the same procedure as #2, but the starter sounds like it was really struggling to move, and I just put in a new battery about two months ago.

So that leads me to this: does anyone have a good step by step procedure for fixing starter brushes? Other expert advice?
I don't mind wrenching; I can learn but I'm no expert, just a poor grad student who needs to save $$$ and would rather not spend $600 bucks on a new starter. Thanks, fellas.
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Old 06-25-2008, 04:54 PM   #2 (permalink)
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first thing i'd be checking is the battery . just because it's only two months old doesn't mean anything .

if you haven't checked the fluid level since you put it in , check it . these bikes boil off the battery fluid quickly . then charge it up with a slow (2 amp) charger or tender overnite .
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Old 06-26-2008, 12:38 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Remove starter motor, take to local Auto. ElectricaL Shop ask them to clean up the comutator, solder on new brushes, check and replace the two bearings if necessary. All up cost here in KiwiLand (bearings good) $25.00.

Pulling in the clutch when starting is really only effective when the engine is to be started from cold. But, whilst holding in the lever, you must 'rock' the bike backwards and forwards (in 1st gear) until you feel the clutch plates separate. This action, although seemingly primitive, takes a huge load of the starter motor on that first press of the button.
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Old 06-26-2008, 11:04 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Hmph. Here in the US, I can't get somebody to give me the time of day for $25.....nevermind rebuild my starter.
Anyway, I had read that Kawasaki EX500 starter brushes fit.....
+1 on breaking the clutch free on cold starts.
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Cheers Greg

I actually disassembled the starter motor myself. A very simple matter, to find out that the brushes were actually soldered on to their winding wires. Now I am not a well respected solderer at the best of times, and given the current that these fittings carry when trying to start our Triples best to get a proffessional on the case. The Auto Electrical Shop around the corner here in Rangiora is just great, where he sourced the actual brushes from I don't know but wouldn't be surprised if they 'modified' a set they had in stock. I too was most surprised at the cost as their charge out rate is $60 per hour. So in real terms any auto electrician worth his salt, anywhere on the planet, should take no more than 30 minutes to undertake the work described. Food for thought!
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Hmph. Here in the US, I can't get somebody to give me the time of day for $25.....
Greg,

Right now, it's a little after 10:30 on Friday morning.

I'll pm you my address, so you can forward the check.
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LOL! Thanks, Dale!!
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Smile Replacing Starter Brushes

I had the same issues/symptoms last week. With the help of Blackfly911, I removed the starter and replaced the brushes. I took about 2 hours of actual work. After taking the starter apart it was apparent that the brushes were worn(alot of black dust inside the starter motor), so I called my local Triumph dealer and was informed that Triumph do not make starter rebuild kits for my 01 Legend, however, Kawasaki brushes are the same size. With that being said I bought the Kawi brushes(Part#15170504, for $30) removed them from the plate and put them on to the original Triumph plate and soudered them into place. The starter was then re-assembled, tested and installed on the bike. The bike fired up with one push of the button(better than I can remember). Total cost was approx. $100 (Rad fluid and Parts).
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cheers mib , question is where this valuable tidbit will be stored here .

2 stickies of pictures , one of problems , but a knowledge vault where folks can find answers easily here ?

do any of you know we have a blog where this stuff is supposed to be stored ?

sorry if i sound a lil sour . Mic's handed in his torch . yea an internet forum is controlled by it's owner , but a forum is only as good as it's members . this forum would be at a total loss without it's most valuable , most knowledgeable member .

why hasn't the torch been passed to jimmyj900 ?
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Wow Woody,

That is a bit bitter! You are defiantly right, it would be nice to consolidate all these posts in one place however, many of the site readers man not be post experts and only place the info where it seems it should go, no fault to them. I have learned lots from some of the senior members here but probably just as much from those who post once in a blue moon.

The information posted here is not lost as long as you can use the search feature, the Blog is great but it's not model specific. With the search feature you can narrow and screen through your results to find what you're looking for.

Just my two cents.
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