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Old 05-19-2008   #21 (permalink)
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Jim,
Thanks for the info. I didn't think it was possible for 3 coils to die at once, that's why I though igniter. I have one more question, could you help?
I checked the 3 coils per the spec in the shop manual for primary resistance, the resistance was .6 ohm, so that was ok. Just last night I was reading thru a motorcycle elec. repair manual and it said to check secondary resistance and gave a range with the high end 12,000 ohms. I checked the secondary resistance tonight and I had 1.8 Mohms, 2.3 Mohms and the 3rd coil was 8+ Mohms. The Triumph manual makes no mention of secondary resistance, would you know what it should be? Per my generic manual it is way out and changes my mind on my problem. I used a Fluke meter for my readings so I'm confident they are correct. I double checked with a 2nd Fluke meter I have.
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Just last night I was reading thru a motorcycle elec. repair manual and it said to check secondary resistance and gave a range with the high end 12,000 ohms. I checked the secondary resistance tonight and I had 1.8 Mohms, 2.3 Mohms and the 3rd coil was 8+ Mohms.
You usually can't do a direct ohms test on the Gill coils because they include a pair of diodes in series with the secondary for transient suppression.

The forward voltage drop of the diode pair is somewhere between 1.2 and 1.5 volts, but if the combination of series resistance and forward voltage drops is around the knee point of the conduction curve the measurements will be very erratic.

You can put a resistor in series with the secondary and run some voltage through the circuit and compare the voltage readings. I did it with a 5K resistor and a 9V radio battery and there was enough current to turn the diodes on.

Measuring the voltages across the resistor with the different coils will give you a good idea of the variation between them and you can calculate a pretty good approximation of the coil resistance if you feel the need.

As I remember it, I got about a 30% variation between coils and that was more than enough encouragement for me to replace them.

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Not if he has one of the late "Bonnie" style ones without a pigtail - those are not interchangeable with the earlier ones. I think they brought them in on the Legend in either 99 or 2000 IIRC
He has a '98 - this should be the same igniter box as all the earlier 885s - at least back to 1996. Jmorris - does it look like the Trident one on eBay?
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