Triumphrat

TailHooker

Good morining everyone.... I've been having a rough time starting up my '99 Tbird recently. This morning, I gave each pod filter a very quick shot of starting fluid and it popped once and turned right over. couple of questions:

1) I know it's not the best thing for the engine... it it bad for the oiled filters?
2) is there a common reason for hard starting? (i'm also experiancing a little hesitation when i first roll on the throttle)

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parrycm

I would say the pod filters are a contributing factor to hard starting. Listening to the SME's on this and other forums - pod filters don't do as good a job as a well-sorted airbox.

But there's a whole laundry list of possibilities with carbs and ignition, right?

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Greaser

Some ideas:
Pod filters will not help starting AND will definitely cause "....a little hesitation when i first roll on the throttle..." which is why I suggest you toss them in the nearest garbage can and put your nice stock airbox back on. Besides letting your bike run properly, the airbox also supports the carbs.

A weak battery although seemingly able to crank the engine over fast enough will NOT priovide enough juice for the ignition. I had this issue a few eyars back with the OEM battery in my 2000 TBS.

Starting fluid will have NO EFFECT on the oil filter unless your rings are some badly worn that the bike smokes like a 2 stroke and even then a little bit of ether wouldn't cause any great harm. So in short no.

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jimmyj900

Did you rejet and adjust the mixture screws when you put on the pod filters? The #38 stock pilot jets may be too lean with the pods. 2.5 turns on the mixture screws is the consensus with the stock jets.

Your bike might be happier with #40 pilots and about 1.5 turns on the mixture screws.

Also, the problem could be caused by dirty pilot jets. That would give you the same symptoms you describe.

Jim

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TailHooker

thanks for the replies, guys... FYI, I bought the bike with the pod filters and TORs already installed from a Triumph dealer. I can only assume they set up the carbs correctly.

Honestly, even though I am an ASE mechanic... carbs/re-jetting, etc... are something I have little experiance with, so i don't want to start messing with them.

Greaser, I didn't really mean the oil filter... I was talking about the pod filters being oiled (as in: is the starting fluid bad for the filters?)... but, yeah, if it was getting into the oil filter, that would be a bad sign!

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Emanthehorse

It would seem to me that the ether will eventually take all the oil off the filters, simple enough to re-oil of course.

Overdo it once, and it will even make cylinder head removal easy.

Afterburner

Recently bought it with 5k on the clock and LOVE it. But it is a prissy little $%#@& to start sometimes. I've learned that the choke lever is just for looks. Never touch it! Probably indicates something about my jet set up. Guy before me put on the K&N air filter and had the carbs adjusted. So, from my Harley days, I give the throttle 2 or 3 pumps (assuming the carbs have an accelerator pump??) and then turn it over. Usually will start and idle. I have to let it warm a bit or it will die when I trie to ease into first. When it won't idle and warm on its own, I gently bring in a very small amount of throttle to bring RPM up over 1500 and hold it. Good to go in a minute or so. All this "expert" advise from a newbie, so take with a grain of salt. This is the best website forum I've ever used, and that JimmyJ is one helluva mechanic from the threads I've read! Ride on.

walshja

although I am not a newbie, my knowledge level certainly qualifies me as one

question: what is a pod filter?

sorry for the dumb question.

this topic interests me because I had the cams and electronics from a Tiger installed on my bike, and the dealer also had to modify my airbox, I am not even sure what was done to the air box, I think he had to open it up a bit for the extra air flow. at least that is what I was told !!! I hate not knowing what I own . . .

Woody1911a1

the Keihin CV's on your harley had accelerator pumps , the one's on your triumph don't .

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Afterburner

So, do I do any good to pump the throttle a couple times before starting? I was hoping to squirt a little gas in the intakes to help start without the choke. Thanks.