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Old 12-16-2006   #21 (permalink)
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Man what a crybaby! Did mommy take your blankey away from you? You really put a lot of effort into proving yourself wrong!
All this "I'm right, you're wrong" stuff shows a huge a lack of modesty. Backing up claims with evidence is interesting and makes common sense, but getting personal is just bad manners, especially if you don't even know the person.

TBStunta kept trying to play it down but it had to get personal. When are people going to keep in mind the axiom of: "It's not what you say it's how you say it." Banter's great as long as it doesn't get personal.
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senyorsimon, beyond whether what I suggested would or would not damage the wheels I just thought of something else that would present an issue. How would you intergrate the valvestem into that design. So disregard that, but there have been other suggestions that are valid, along with the possibly far fetched idea of using a BMW rim.
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Moto Guzzi used to use rims similar to BMW's. If you search a user group you should be able to find out the sizes and details (maybe even some good rims). Any good wheel shop may also be able to answer those questions. I would find this of interest if you get any positive answers.

Here's a better article on the wheel works job: http://www.streetchopperweb.com/tech..._spoke_wheels/
Another shop & 'wisdom': http://www.woodyswheelworks.com/wisdom.sht
http://www.woodyswheelworks.com/bmw.shtml
BMW pic: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homep...ls/GS-tube.jpg

Check out the Jupiter wheel/rim:
http://www.bankeperformance.com/flattrack/rims.html



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How about this for an idea?

Cut the bottom quarter off an inner tube around its circumference and tack it on to the rim with some kind of silicon glue stuff. You get the air seal with the pressure and a valve as well.
I know it seems a bit cowboy and i don't know what sort of glue would be suitable. You might even have to use a smaller tube so that you have a stretch fit. I think it may be worth a try for the cost of an inner tube or two.

I would give it a go my self, but i have no intention of going back to spoked wheels.
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Bodger: Let's see if anyone can reply to that "thinking out loud idea" in a polite way.
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...some kind of silicon glue stuff. You get the air seal with the pressure and a valve as well. I know it seems a bit cowboy and i don't know what sort of glue would be suitable. ...
I was thinking about a UV-curing, high-cohesion, low-adhesion silicon rubber or gel for wheel sealing. I saw a silicon gel used on military electronics years ago that's very soft and elastic but peels off the parts easily. That would make spoke adjustments possible yet still provide sealing.

The downside of using the gel would be in mounting the tire -- it wouldn't take much force to dislodge it and destroy the seal -- and that's where the inner tube strip might be viable.

I wish I had more time to pursue it, but I'm up to my butt in trying to put a business together at the moment... :-D

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On 2006-12-20 09:17, senyorsimon wrote:
Bodger: Let's see if anyone can reply to that "thinking out loud idea" in a polite way.
I thought it was impolite to get personal? Just because you don't use a name and make it vague doesn't mean we can't tell who this is directed to. :???:

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Double-pane glass is glued together with something that rarely leaks (in the 1" commercial applications that I use.) The pressure in the tire will put pressure on the strip of tube, making for a lot of movement during tire changes that windows don't experience.
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Double-pane glass is glued together with something that rarely leaks (in the 1" commercial applications that I use.) The pressure in the tire will put pressure on the strip of tube, making for a lot of movement during tire changes that windows don't experience.
Another possibility would be to use the gel only on the spoke nipples inside the wheel and use one of the really 'tough' high-adhesion silicon rubbers to protect the soft stuff. That way the 'soft' stuff would allow adjustment and the 'tough' stuff would provide protection.

Come to think of it, my mother-in-law's version of 'rice' might do the job as a sealant and adhesive. She thinks the smoke alarm was invented to tell her when she's done cooking dinner. :-D

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