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Old 07-14-2004   #1 (permalink)
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I have a 1999 Thunderbird Sport which has been idle for 3 years. It has fewer than 3k miles. Apparently the carbs are full of varnish and gunk! I've removed the carbs and am replacing the air-box. I don't want to disassemble the carbs if possible. Would soaking and rinsing the carbs in a solvent be advisable?

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Most definately not!

Your carbd have many plastic pieces which you would most likely dissolve if you chose the wrong solvent.
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varnish - gummy varnish like deposits left after gasolene evaporates.
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Thanks! Would a spray carb cleaner be the answer? Will it remove the varnish from inside the bowls?
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Hi BD

If the bike has been idle for years the thing i would be worried about is the pistons stuck to the bore. get the plugs out and pour a little RedeX or Wynns petrol add, into the bore and let it sit for a day or two before turning the motor over. if you add RedeX to the fuel tank it will clean out the whole fuel system when the bike is running.
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I think you should take apart at least one carb to see how bad it is inside.
I think once you see the inside of the one you will decide to do the others also.
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the oil in the cylinders is the first thing to do then try yamaha ringfree in the gas this stuff can remove the toughest varnish deposits and carbon buildup from valves which can rob compression
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This is an interesting discussion but I don't see how we know enough to advise intelligently. Like: does it turn over; does it run? Most bikes will not lock up in three years, or, in my experience, in some cases, thirty years. So, IF the bike turns over, then you can spritz some oil into the cylinders, and turn it some more to loosen it up. Then you can change the oil and filter. Dump the old gas and put in some new; check all fluids, battery, etc.

IF it runs, then I would suggest (Don't laugh! ) that you run about three tanks of gas with MMO (Marvel Mystery Oil mixed in the gas, (MMO is a lubricating solvent), at the ratio suggested, through the carbs. IE: Ride it. Almost all of the gunk in the carbs will come out. The very last thing I would do is tear into the carbs or anything else until I knew that they were, in fact, clogged. I wouldn't do it because I assumed that "they ought to be."

Reference: I just this spring dug a 1975 Honda CB200 out of a barn that had not been run in 17 years! It has 4700 miles on it. I cleaned it up, turned it over, got a new battery etc, like described above, and gave it the old kick start kick. Well, three, actually. And she ran. Poorly, I admit. But she ran. Then it was three tanks of MMO, and she ran better. A new set of points and plugs and she runs perfectly. It has 6200 miles on it. Carbs have not been messed with except to set the idle and syncronize them (2 carbs).

So, bottom line, "first, do no harm." And, second, "Do the simple stuff first." You can always make a mess of things later.

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Edited for spelling. I STILL can't spell :-D

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I have not done this myself but I am very reliably iformed by a contact in Germany who has done it, that standard industrial ultrasonic cleaning is the answer

I tried to hand clean the Mikuni carbs on a 97 Tbird after a 3 year layup to no avail. There was a green film inside and the brass components were green and badly corroded plus the bike still coughed, popped and spluttered. Carb cleaner was not very effective.

I guess the internet or yellow pages should turn up companies who will do this, I believe its a common practice.

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