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Hinckley Classic Triples 885cc Classic Styled T3's: Legend, Thunderbird, Thunderbird Sport & Adventurer.

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Old 12-07-2011, 12:29 AM   #1 (permalink)
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false neutrals - problem?

Hi everyone,
Not much to complain about, but I do seem to be finding the false neutrals a lot when I change down these days. Oil is only a few thousand kms old; new chain which maybe could be tighter, but is still correct to spec. Any ideas?
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Old 12-07-2011, 07:39 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Did you check the oil level?
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Old 12-07-2011, 10:30 AM   #3 (permalink)
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It's always said you have to be very positive with the shifter on these. I occasionally get a neutral between 4th & 5th but I think that's mostly short shifting quickly & not letting the shifter return fully. Otherwise its ok.

I guess I'd be looking at clutch operation & shifting technique (as well as Al's oil suggestion) before suspecting g'box problems?

I've heard that clutch plates can dry a little & revving the motor when warm with the clutch disengaged can ensure the plates are evenly soaked in oil helps.
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Old 12-07-2011, 12:19 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I saw a kit advertised somewhere for our triples that dealt specifically with this issue. It had a stronger return spring I think.

Sadly I can't remember where I saw it now, it was somewhere online .

I hit the damn things now and then, but I'm getting better. I agree with Mike in that it's also a technique issue though. I believe I don't release the lever properly sometimes, unknowingly.

I've often been tempted to set the gear lever straight up, like we used to do with our trail bikes, so I can bang it forward and backward .
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I think it's mostly about technique. Sometimes I get a little sloppy and have to re-educate my foot. One likely problem is not letting the lever return fully to the centre position.

The boxes on these bikes are pretty tough.
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I have had my Adventurer for nearly a year now and have not once hit a false neutral, unlike my last bike (a 1100 Kawasaki). Mine is the 6 speed box though. Would that make any difference?
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I've had 2 Tigers and 2 Sprints. They all had crappy gearboxes. My wife's 6 speed Thunderbird however, has a delightful gearbox, light, positive, and no false neutrals.
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I have had my Adventurer for nearly a year now and have not once hit a false neutral, unlike my last bike (a 1100 Kawasaki). Mine is the 6 speed box though. Would that make any difference?
No, they all have six speed boxes. Triumph saw fit to remove one of the sixth gears and replace it with a spacer for some bizarre reason. They also fitted a 5 speed selector drum instead of the 6 speed one.
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I get a false neutral occasionally between 4th & 5th. Never given it much thought - figured it was just sloppy shifting on my part. Each time it happens, I mentally remind myself to be firm on my up-shifts
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I saw a kit advertised somewhere for our triples that dealt specifically with this issue. It had a stronger return spring I think.
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