Triumphrat

Spooner · 08-12-2005, 05:17 PM

Three times today something strange happenend when shifting from 3rd to 4th or from 4th to 5th. I would hear a clunk as if a sprocket was missed and then the bike would roll silently like in neutral. I had to kick the gear in again for it to engage. Is my gearbox falling apart?? Is it a clutch problem??

I changed chain and sprockets a couple of months ago and I use Motul 300v 15W50 fully synthetic engine oil.

JWoodsie · 08-12-2005, 07:17 PM

I occasionally get a false neutral between fifth and sixth gears, I dont worry about it too much. Its the nasty crunch getting it back into gear is the problem. Dont seem to get it so much since I changed to Motul 300.
Actually i havent noticed it at all.
If your worried about it spooner do take it to the dealer mate. Sounds a bit more serious than my little neutral.

Greaser · 08-12-2005, 07:29 PM

Check you chain tension!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A loose chain will cause poor shifting.

jimmyj900 · 08-13-2005, 12:52 AM

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A loose chain will cause poor shifting

So will thick oil. Due for a change?

Jim

Spooner · 08-13-2005, 02:55 AM

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So will thick oil. Due for a change?

Jim

Your making me go bald here (not really...still a long way to go)...whatchoo mean change oil??? The oil is about two weeks old....and it cost me 80 bucks for 4 liters. When the bike's done with the oil my kids are having it for breakfast.
:-D

johnyC · 08-13-2005, 06:17 AM

Spooner,

If it helps reduce your worries any I get this occassionally too, it's as though the clutch has failed to lift. Another pull on the lever and it goes in, maybe it's just another wee Triumph 'thing'.

ps. there's another thing, it's been over five years since the hydraulic fluids went in the bike at the factory, maybe changing it should be added to the list of 'things I ought to do instead of riding the bike'

jimmyj900 · 08-13-2005, 11:30 AM

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Your making me go bald....

Cool! You can get a smaller helmet and be much more aerodynamic!

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whatchoo mean change oil??? The oil is about two weeks old....

Thicker oil causes harder shifting. I was missing shifts in the higher gears when I tried a 20W-50 instead of the 10W-40.

The reason I was suggesting you might be due for an oil change is that most oils get thicker with age.

Perhaps your foot is just tired from excessive riding? :-D

Jim

cafetbird · 08-13-2005, 11:45 AM

I have been told by a Triumph technician that these trannies have a dual detent design for shifting. This is done because it reduces wear on the internal components - thus your tranny will live longer.

It also means that you have to get a very solid shift every time, or once in a while you will only get the system partially engaged - thus the "pop out" condition.

So, use a good oil (without friction modifiers), and shift squarely, and you should be O.K. I have never heard of anyone having a transmission problem on any of these bikes... other than on of these missed shifts.

Spooner · 08-13-2005, 04:52 PM

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On 2005-08-13 09:30, jimmyj900 wrote:

Cool! You can get a smaller helmet and be much more aerodynamic!

Handing out pearls as always! :upthumb:
Suddenly I'm not afraid of going bald...performance! anything for performance!

Shifting was better today btw...maybe I just had a wooz day yesterday.

[ This message was edited by: Spooner on 2005-08-13 14:54 ]

ClassiclyMobile · 08-14-2005, 04:03 AM

This is really laughable but I was just about to take my bike in for service due to shifting problems when it occurred to me that it only happened with a certain pair of boots I was wearing. Seems that I was not letting the shift lever all the way down after a shift due to thicker soles or stiffer ankles. When I realized what was happening I made an effort to get the toe of the boot completely off the shifter between shifts and the problem was resolved.
CM