Triumphrat

toller · 01-10-2009, 01:25 AM

Really a multipart question;

I have a legend and find the exhaust note to be excessively tame. But I don't like to mess with stuff that is working well so was thinking of trying something more radical while keeping my current exhaust available for refit.

Which headers on the TB, TBS and TT are interchange, if any?
Is there a benefit between 3 into 1 or 3 into 2? If so, is one better?

Can we use the headers off of a 900 sprint or speed triple (or a kawasaki triple)? They total their bikes more so more bits are available.

For all this stuff, really only concerned with what is doable (or really what is done) and how much altering it takes.

And that final, dreadful question. Will I gain anything other than noise? 100mpg and 20 extra hp and tires that never go flat?

denny · 01-10-2009, 02:44 AM

The early T3 Sprint/Trophy/Speed Triple/Daytona headers will fit. (Probably your best bet)
There is interference with the water pipe, so that needs to be changed also. Some have noted some interference with the foot peg/shifter mechanism.

There are only minor differences between TBird/Adventurer/Legend headers. The 98/99 TBS header has it's own set of challenges, but with a little modification can fit the Legend. But your Fuel cell would have to go o the other side of the bike.

The 2000 and up TBS header has a balance pipe that runs under the engine. That will fowl on the centerstand if you have one.

I've fitted a '97 Speed Triple (885 FI engine) on my TBS, but that required more modification that I wanted to do. Water pipe ultimately had to be modified, even the one from a Trophy would not clear enough in the long run. Extended the header 1" where it bolts to the head, and bent the pipe to clear the rear brake pedal. It would probably fit the Legend at the brake pedal because of the different location. Plus fabricate a mid pipe and find some muffler to work.

Thunderbike, D&D, Mecatwin are some companies that make aftermarket solutions.

3 into one creates better exhaust gas scavenging. How that translates to power and gas mileage?? your guess is as good as mine. The 3 into 3 and three into one sure do sound Kewl though!

toller · 01-11-2009, 01:13 AM

Thanks Denny, that pretty much covered it.

I went back through all the posts from 2004 to present on headers and checked the links for all the manufacturers; it would seem that all the 3 into 1 headers that are going to made for the 885/900 motor have been made and are no longer in production, are no longer listed in the various manufacturers' catalogs though they may have a leftover here and there. Okay, fair is fair, I wasn't going to buy anything new anyhow, its just not my way. We should still have a steady supply of used parts from all those sporting sister bikes.

with a bit of patience ( which I'm not to keen on) I'll find a good deal on a header.

Ballacraine · 01-12-2009, 02:55 PM

Which ever way you go about it, there is going to be some 'custom' fitting work to be done. Usually there are 2 or 3 knock on problems associated with it.

I used Tiger headers & balance pipe off ebay.
The water pump pipe needed changing.
I shortened the H section balance pipe by about 1.5" for clearance on the centrestand.

I also modified the centre stand for clearance on the Raygun silencers, but that is really a seperate issue.

Nige.

Proffa66 · 01-12-2009, 04:15 PM

http://www.quillexhausts.com/oemdownpipes.cfm

http://www.bandcexpress.com/cgi-bin/...AD&nav=Triumph

http://www.triumphrat.net/t3-sport-t...1-exhaust.html Address by Wolf

They are still making those 3-1 exhausts to T300 Triumphs.

denny · 01-12-2009, 10:38 PM

Sorry for the poor quality cell phone pics.

'97 Speed Triple header and Custom made mid pipe.
Muffler compliments of Don the Tiger Man "noivson".

I only need to weld the spring hooks on the midpipe, then off to the polisher. My first attempt at an exhaust pipe. I won't tell you about any of the mistakes.

Ronkeli · 01-13-2009, 06:55 AM

Hi denny
Just buy (on eBay) similar S3 headers for my TBS, than yours.(I´m still waiting for package)
Must you even change water pipe with this headers ?

denny · 01-13-2009, 03:04 PM

http://www.triumphrat.net/hinckley-c...ml#post1180577

4th paragraph

Ronkeli · 01-13-2009, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by denny

http://www.triumphrat.net/hinckley-c...ml#post1180577

4th paragraph

Thanks, there it found. Sorry, I was little hasty (again) ;-(

denny · 01-13-2009, 05:13 PM

I am lucky to have acces to a pretty good metalworking shop.
Although schedules permits me to use it only on Monday afternoons.
I'll take my camera with me next time and get some better pics for you. You'll need access to a Lathe to make the 1" extensions for the header. I also had to bend the header pipe so that It will clear the brake pedal. Not exactly easy mods, cause the Stainless is difficult to bend without damaging something. I cut out all of the pieces for the mid pipe and my friend did the TIG welding for that and he also did the welding on the water pipe, and the header extensions. I can't wait for some good weather so I can sort out the jetting to match the mods.