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Hinckley Classic Triples 885cc Classic Styled T3's: Legend, Thunderbird, Thunderbird Sport & Adventurer.

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Old 01-02-2009, 10:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Curing Cold TBird Bloodedness?

It takes a good 5 miles to get past the hesitation in cool, let alone cold, weather on our '03 Thunderbird.
Is there a cure short of risking fouling the plugs with the choke all that time?
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Old 01-02-2009, 11:39 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Just checked the current Connecticut weather and it's -6c !


I would say you were lucky to start the bike that cold !

.....but then I'm only guessing Don't experience such low temperatures here in the North Island of NZ.

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Old 01-03-2009, 12:15 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Iridium plugs?

Rode here in SE PA on New Year's Day - temp was about 34 F when I fired the bike up. Started immediately, with a little choke (about 2 minutes) while I pulled on helmet, gloves, and checked over the bike. This has been my experience with Iridium plugs, although I realize that 34 isn't extremely cold.
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Old 01-03-2009, 09:51 AM   #4 (permalink)
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When I had my stock carbs, I always let it warm up a few minutes before hopping on and riding. I never had a problem.
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Old 01-03-2009, 09:53 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Nature of the beast

They're cold-blooded by nature. Installing a K&N air filter makes them even more so. I leave the choke on a little for the first couple miles and then take it off once the engine is warm. Never fouled a plug...
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Old 01-03-2009, 09:53 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I'm talking when it's in the mid 50s and low 60s.
It's a good 10 to 15 minutes before it's responsive and has been like that since new.

So which jets are to fiddle with?
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Old 01-03-2009, 10:58 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I was forunate enough to snag a cheap ($50) jet kit on e-bay. It cured the cold, lean, settings easily. Unfortunately, the most important part (the needles, in this case) are not available individually.
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Old 01-03-2009, 03:18 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Definitely not my experience that my 99 Legend (same Keihin carbs) is coldblooded (or my previous Tbird). Choke is off within 400m summer (~20c if we're lucky) or winter (~4c). Engine fully warm in ~2 miles, riding slow (max 50mph) until then. Have K&N filter & Thunderbike 3-1 pipe mods.

My best guess why this machine won't play is the pilot screw setting, known to be very lean as stock. I'm using stock jets but screws are 2.5 turns out. But maybe check all the clamps etc. to be sure an air leak isn't leaning things out.
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Old 01-05-2009, 08:40 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Are you running the plugs for cool weather? Original plugs were dpr9 ea 9 or somthing like it .They then changed em to a warmer running plug dpr8 ea9.I asked a ngk rep at the uk bike show why? He explaind that the bird came down between two plug parameters, go figure!
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Old 01-05-2009, 03:52 PM   #10 (permalink)
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cold blooded

I have a 95 T-Bird with dpr8ea9 for winter and dpr9ea9 for summer.
-6 degrees here this morning bike up to temp within 2 miles always ride with choke on for first 1 or 2 miles never heard of fouling plugs.

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