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Old 10-28-2012, 03:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Talking Tune of Death or better?

Hi there guys I have loaded Tune of death on my 2010 Speed triple SE
But after the tune my TPS does not reset and turn green on tune ecu
What can I do to get the TPS correct?
Has anyone used TOD and how do you find it?
By speedie has a Arrow 3-1 low mount, K&N filter with air box modiefied so is there a better tune than TOD anyone can recomend?:
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Old 10-28-2012, 03:49 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I forget what years that tune was for, you may need to modify it for proper application on certain models. What do you mean by "airbox modified"...?

Did you follow the instructions on the TuneECU website? Also, I think the TOD has the O2 disabled and in that case, you will never get a green TPS light.

Look on the TuneECU site and there may be other tunes for your bike that you could try and see which one feels the best.

Just be careful in the future with what tune you load on your bike, you want to make sure it is correct for your model year, etc. so you don't run into any issues.
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Pretty sure the tune of death was done on a 2008 Speedy with the Comp Werkz 3-1 low mount, an aftermarket air filter, SAI intact, and O2 disabled.

I have read that it isn't ideal for the 2010+ bikes, but who knows.
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It doesn't work well on the 2011+ bikes, 2010 was still a little different so not sure.
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Old 10-29-2012, 09:46 AM   #5 (permalink)
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It doesn't work well on the 2011+ bikes, 2010 was still a little different so not sure.
Sorry, that is correct. Meant to type 2011+

It may be a fine tuning option for the 2010, not sure.
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I disabled the O2 sensor and SAI on the TOD and loaded it again onto my S3, Then I did the 12 minute tune and it runs very well. My S3 is a 2010 with a K&N filter and Arrow 3-1 low mount, This tune are very smooth and the power delivery are very strong and constand it seem to never dissapear.


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I disabled the O2 sensor and SAI on the TOD and loaded it again onto my S3, Then I did the 12 minute tune and it runs very well. My S3 is a 2010 with a K&N filter and Arrow 3-1 low mount, This tune are very smooth and the power delivery are very strong and constand it seem to never dissapear.


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Keep in mind the original TOD was done on a bike that had SAI intact.
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Old 11-30-2012, 03:44 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Tune of death

Having read about the tune of death I decided I had to try it. I have a 2009 S3 with a Comp Werkes 3-1 low mount and had no issues loading the tune although I never got the TPS light due to no O2 sensor in the tune. SAI is enabled but seems pointless without the O2 sensor? My previous tune worked OK with the Comp Werkes pipe but it was prone to blue flame and alot of popping on deceleration. The obvious improvement with the tune is a major reduction in popping on deceleration and no flames when you close and then open the throttle. In terms of performance improvement, the tune is definately impressive with the bike pulling hard all the way through the rpm and gears and 100mph comes and goes very quickly. Even with the stock cans this bike would get the front wheel off the ground in first and second gear when you ride it like you stole it but with the tune of death it is not possible to hit wide open throttle in first or second and still expect the front wheel to be available for it's steering duties. In third it is very easy to get the front to pop up on the throttle with a little encouragement from a rise in the road. I suspect it may also be true in higher gears if you are in the right rpm range but the corresponding speed would be too high to be comfortable unless you have really mastered the art of keeping the front wheel in line when it is off the ground. On the downside, this tune has taken away alot of rideability at low speed. The tune is great if you are accelerating or running above 5000 rpm but when you are in traffic it feels like it is straining at the leash. With some mods and a dyno the tune of death could definately get the last drop of power and torque out of the S3 motor but for my needs I will be trying a tune with a little more low speed rideability and I would definately be more comfortable with less ignition advance. I will definately try this again though when the ambient air temp is higher as it looks like the tune has not considered cold running conditions (46 degrees F today). I am also planning a 45 tooth rear sprocket and I suspect that this tune with a 45 rear will be alot of fun.
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Having read about the tune of death I decided I had to try it. I have a 2009 S3 with a Comp Werkes 3-1 low mount and had no issues loading the tune although I never got the TPS light due to no O2 sensor in the tune. SAI is enabled but seems pointless without the O2 sensor? My previous tune worked OK with the Comp Werkes pipe but it was prone to blue flame and alot of popping on deceleration. The obvious improvement with the tune is a major reduction in popping on deceleration and no flames when you close and then open the throttle. In terms of performance improvement, the tune is definately impressive with the bike pulling hard all the way through the rpm and gears and 100mph comes and goes very quickly. Even with the stock cans this bike would get the front wheel off the ground in first and second gear when you ride it like you stole it but with the tune of death it is not possible to hit wide open throttle in first or second and still expect the front wheel to be available for it's steering duties. In third it is very easy to get the front to pop up on the throttle with a little encouragement from a rise in the road. I suspect it may also be true in higher gears if you are in the right rpm range but the corresponding speed would be too high to be comfortable unless you have really mastered the art of keeping the front wheel in line when it is off the ground. On the downside, this tune has taken away alot of rideability at low speed. The tune is great if you are accelerating or running above 5000 rpm but when you are in traffic it feels like it is straining at the leash. With some mods and a dyno the tune of death could definately get the last drop of power and torque out of the S3 motor but for my needs I will be trying a tune with a little more low speed rideability and I would definately be more comfortable with less ignition advance. I will definately try this again though when the ambient air temp is higher as it looks like the tune has not considered cold running conditions (46 degrees F today). I am also planning a 45 tooth rear sprocket and I suspect that this tune with a 45 rear will be alot of fun.
Fedora,
Just out of interest what tune did you run previous to ToD..? My complaint of ToD is i still get a "flat "spot around 3-4k and sometimes it almost stalls when stopped at Junctions....
BTW I'm running a '08, no SAI, no O2, 45 tooth rear and Scorpion low mount.
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Old 12-27-2012, 04:16 PM   #10 (permalink)
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My previous tune was a variation of the stock map (20238 I think). I had issues with the TOD at low RPMs and it sounds like you are too. I suspect it may be down to the adaptation problems without the O2 sensor. I plan on trying this tune again when spring comes around but with the O2 and SAI on so I get the correct low RPM adaptation. I have removed the CW low mount for now as I was running the track version and the noise level was drawing alot of attention.
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