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07-20-2008, 10:02 AM
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removing restrictor
hiya, got my unrestricted license but my bike is restricted to 34ps, can anyone tell me how to remove it please, thank you.
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07-20-2008, 12:01 PM
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Seeing as how telling you how to remove it could potentially leave someone liable for your injury, and there is no way for you to prove to us here on this forum who you are or what your license status actually is, I would suggest you take the bike to your dealer, prove to them in person who you are and that you have the appropriate license and have them remove it.
I would suggest to other members here to tell you the same to avoid any potential liability as well.
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07-20-2008, 01:28 PM
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Huh?
Sorry for being a Newb, but what is all this talk of restricted licenses and restrictor plates? Is this guy from North Korea or something? Oh, is this the English license system where you have to start out on little bikes or something?
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07-20-2008, 01:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeremy
Sorry for being a Newb, but what is all this talk of restricted licenses and restrictor plates? Is this guy from North Korea or something? Oh, is this the English license system where you have to start out on little bikes or something?
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Sounds like something they have been trying to pass here in GA namely the tiered license system. Never heard of a restrictor on a bike though.
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07-20-2008, 03:43 PM
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In some countries, there is a strict limit on horsepower for beginners. They can own any bike they want, but it can't deliver more than the legally prescribed amount of power! That can be implemented via a physical restrictor plate on carburreted bikes, but on EFI bikes it would do more than just limit power...it might mess up starting, affect emissions, and/or raise other problems.
It's better to do this with the FI map in modern bikes. Of course, that would tend to make tampering too easy with third-party mapping tools, so administrations which require restriction have been pushing manufacturers to secure the map in some way. In the Daytona 675 and all fuel injected Triumphs introduced since, the ECM and the map contained within its memory can be "locked" so that only a dealer with the diagnostic tool and the correct codes can legitimately change the tune. If it has been unlocked any other way, that fact is recorded in the ECM.
Best advice for Lee is, show your new license to your dealer and have him re-map the bike for normal performance. It only takes a few minutes, and shouldn't be very expensive.
(Skyline... I lived in GA back when we had tiered licensing before. Fortunately, I passed my tests and was licensed sufficiently long before it took effect, so I was grandfathered in at the top tier, although I had never yet ridden anything bigger than a 750. Of course, it hadn't been all that long since those were considered superbikes in their day, anyway. Having owned a Harley and a Rocket III since then, though, as well as my various other Triumphs, I think I likely could be grandfathered once again if necessary.  )
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07-20-2008, 04:21 PM
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all it is restricted by is a plate restricting the throttle movement. would just like to know if anyone knows where it is without me dismantling the bike.
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07-20-2008, 11:36 PM
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It is probably somewhere around the throttle bodies, maybe even on the underneath side of them where you have to take it all apart to get at anyway. Your dealership is the way to go, since they would be able to deal with the plate and the map. There is a specific map for restricted bikes.
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07-21-2008, 02:09 PM
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I don't think it has a different mapping than the normal bike, since you can only open the gas by half a centimeter, prolly less.
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07-21-2008, 04:36 PM
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Omg
After reading all of this, I'm just glad I don't have to mess with this crap in NC!
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07-21-2008, 08:41 PM
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In my opinion, the United States has far too little control or restrictions on motorcycle licenses. Too many people go out and buy the fastest motorcycle they can buy with absolutely no expereince riding and this results in too many catastrophic accidents for new riders. Some dealers are also partially responsible for this issue as they do little to educate new riders. They are just happy to take the money from a customer and could care less about whether or not they will survive long enough to come back for service on that fast new bike.
A tiered licensing system that encourages skill development coupled with a helmet law at a minimum should be put in place.
Yeah, yeah, I know... America, civil liberties and freedom... However, these idiots affect my insurance rates. If their stupidity had no impact on me, then I'd say fine... Do whatever you please. The reality, however, is the actions of these irresponsible people affect all of us in a negative way.
This is the one thing I have the largest disagreement with the AMA on, but I feel their other programs are beneficial enough for me to continue to be a member.
Again, this is just one man's opinion and I know there are many who will disagree.
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