Thanks for the pictures, they confirm that I do not have the SAI components.

I spoke with my local dealer this morning and have an appointment. He seems to think he can make it right...beyond just loading a map, there are some other things to try.

I will update and give a detailed solution as it happens.

Thanks!
Ed

DEcosse, According to TuneBoy's chart, 10152 is also the base tune for the S3...do you really think so, I don't. Just the speedo fix.

Brad

Originally Posted by bradtx

DEcosse, According to TuneBoy's chart, 10152 is also the base tune for the S3...do you really think so, I don't. Just the speedo fix....

Originally Posted by DEcosse

... In the table above 10152 is the base tune from which the final tune is derived - 10152 is in fact a Speed Triple tune (std exhaust, no SAI). All the 02+ Sagem ECM Triples are based on this tune as the building block....

I'm not sure what you're asking/saying Brad - as I explained 10152 itself is an S3 tune - unmodified this is the actual tune number that would be loaded to an 02+ S3 configured with no SAI & stock exhaust. All the other triples (Daytonas, Sprints, Tigers with all their variants of SAI, exhasut etc) are all derived from this base building block but there are significant differences. If you open any of these tunes in Tuneboy you can read the edit notes & see what the tune is based on - they all say 10152, it is not just a typo in the table.
10152 itself should not be in your Daytona but one of the 4 listed in the abbreviated table above should (or older 10093 based Daytona tune like 10128/10129 which would not have speedo fix.)

Note that with Tuneboy, you can turn on or off the speedo error check anyway, so no need to even load the 10152 series necessarily.

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DEcosse, The S3 and the D955i aren't going to have the same base tune, but both can have 10152 to stop the speedo diagnostic. Triumph doesn't use the on/off speedo check option the same as TuneBoy, but rather the patch which bypasses the diagnostic according to my dealer.

Brad

I don't know how else to say this Brad - 10152 is not a patch, it is an updated tune which includes the "fix". (It may include other un-declared changes)
10152 is an S3 tune ONLY.Yes, they can have the same base tune - this is nothing to do with what is actually loaded onto the bike - just the building base from which the bike specific tune is derived. No you absolutely cannot run 10152 on a Daytona.

Respectfully, you are confusing what the actual tune number is with what the base is (which frankly is piece of information we don't even need to know - think of the base number as a 'generation' or revision id) - the only thing that matters is the final tune number which applies to the specific model. 10152 is not a patch applied to the 'base' tune - it IS the base tune.

For the speedo check option both Triumph & Tuneboy access this in exactly the same way:
The ECM has a DI (digital input) that is assigned to speedo error check -In the Trumph version of the tune as loaded as a 'pre-packaged can', the speedo error check is hard-coded to be 'on' for 10128-based & 'off' for 10152-based tunes forward - Tuneboy has (always had) the option to toggle it on or off because of its software interface to address these features individually - as well as many other accessable DI's (Digital inputs) & AI's (analog Inputs) that the triumph firmware provides the ability to address, but doesn't make them variable through a fixed tune; it pre-assigns these values (others are for example, rev limit, thermofan, tune constants etc) - this is not a feature that Tuneboy created - those inputs already exist in the ECM in firmware, TB just creates the ability to access & modify these variables which Triumph has fixed in the 'canned' programs.

See screen shots below for 10152 tune (S3) and 10179 (Daytona) which have the tune notes both superimposed on them. The tunes are quite different but share the same base tune.

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DEcosse, I'll PM you.

Brad

My appointment is tomorrow. I will post up any progress and what seems to work the best.

Well, the TOR tune is back in (correct one for my model). I am not sure what the mechanic did differently, if anything but it seems to run ok. I did not get a chance to explore the powerband yet but had no real sputtering on the way back to work.

This can (not made for any Triumph), is pretty free flowing, even compared to some other aftermarket pipes I have seen and I am getting used to the slight popping on deceleration.

When I can afford it, I will go for the tuneboy to iron out the wrinkles to get the smoothest power delivery. I don't really care about all out horsepower...rather a good hard drive out of corners. I am still getting used to the higher RPM running and really miss my old speed triple motor.

On another note, my .90 springs are on the way and maybe then will be able to set up the suspension to my liking and finally be happy with this bike.

Glad to hear on the road to recovery Pinballer - they MUST have loaded the wrong tune - would have been real nice if they just acknowledged that.
Saw the pic of your Muzzy in the sticky thread - it would be neat to have a sound clip of that, not a common option on the Triumphs I've seen on here. Congrats on a little individualism.

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Thanks DEcosse! The pipe sounds like an old WW2 Bomber when tooling around. To be honest, the intakes make so much noise at higher revs that combined with the wind noise in my helmet, I can not really hear it.