Triumphrat

mushman · 12-08-2006

I just bought the used 95 1200 I'd been looking at. Everything about it looks great but I have fuel tank concerns. I'm thinking a normal healthy (stock) fuel tank is shining bare metal. The inside of this tank looks like it was treated or even re-painted. Red-orange primer color all inside and service work prior to my purchase said this coating was flaking off into the fuel system and carbs. Do you think this was a Kreem treatment or a home-made fix for a rusty tank? I plan to remedy this with a Kreem treatment or Por15 tank cleaner and sealer. Has anyone experienced this problem or used either of these products to restore a rust lined fuel tank? Or should I just seek out a costly NOS tank?
Thanks for your help.

Mushman

daytonacharlie · 12-08-2006

mush,
Kreem is white so what you're seeing could be rust on the inside of your tank. The flaking pieces in the carbs and hopefully in the in-line filters I would suspect are flakes of rust. It's possible it could be some other brand of sealer but I'm not aware of a product that's primer in color.

I have a 96 tona with rusty spots inside my tank with similar symptoms to yours. I'm planning on using a tank sealer over this winter when I'll also be rebuilding my carbs. I've used Kreem tank sealer on other bikes with very good success. It's quite involved, taking the better part of a day to complete because of the multiple steps (cleaning, etching, stop bath, coating, coating again...) required but it works great.

There is another product that supposedly has only one step although I've not used it, don't know the product name either, sorry.
But if you're not seeing white inside the tank then it's most likely not been treated with Kreem.

I wouldn't buy a new OEM tank just yet, give a sealer a try first. Hope this helps.

remember free advice is worth what you paid for it,
dc

daytonacharlie · 12-08-2006

mush,
So you live in Coeur d'Alene, ID.
I was just out there a couple years ago visiting a friend who moved there from here (Atlanta). He's a BMW guy. We (two friends and I) trailered our bikes from Atlanta to Coeur d'Alene and took a two week bike trip vacation with him (Phil) touring the Canadian Rockies, Glacier Natl Pk, Yellowstone and all points in between. Some of the best scenery I've ever seen! Love that Moose Drool Ale! Must be nice to live in such a beautiful area.

So what color is your Daytona? I hear the red ones are the fastest.

dc

mushman · 12-08-2006

DC,

Thanks for the reply. It's good to know that a Kreem treated tank is supposed to look white. The long involved repair process doesn't discourage me since getting it right and keeping it right are most important. I'll make a day of it. I just wish my garage was warmer.
Here's the other treatment I found while Googling for some Kreem answers. Haven't found anyone for a testimonial on this product yet but it looks like a Kreem competitor.

http://www.por15.com/

Again thanks.

Mushman

mushman · 12-08-2006

DC

The new bike is nasty Black. I needed something different to sit next to the silver GS and red and black KLR. I bought it last week out of Seattle (actually stole it) for two grand. The owner hadn't ridden it in 3 years. Didn't even have a bike license. He'd meant to get around to learning to ride but it never happened. It was his first bike. Odd choice to learn on, huh? Lucky me. Other than the tank problem, all seems perfect. 21K on the clock and good looking service records from the previous owner. Just starting and idling at low revs there's a bit of gear noise right side cam cover. Is that normal? Also my right exhaust can spits out some exhaust to the inside. Must be some corrosion or a slight hole under the riveted-on wrap. Smoking after shut off could just be moisture on that side.
It is great riding up here, albeit seasonal. Lots of open high speed asphalt to gobble up with non-existant traffic and just a smattering of John Law. The scenery is awsome but at speed it's hard to always take it all in while hanging on. If you ever make it up this way again call early and I'll show you some incredible hidden highways that'll leave you slack-jawed. I'm really looking forward to aiming this beauty into some high speed distance work. Always good to have an extra bike (the GS) for when friends drop by sans scooter.
Thanks again for your help. I'll probably be picking your brain some more upcoming.

Mushman

doodledog · 12-08-2006

WELL FRANKLY AS AN EX TANK COMMANDER AND TROOP LEADER, i THOUGHT THIS POST WAS GOING TO BE ABOUT PANZERS. :wink:

Nickwiz · 12-08-2006

That red paint is standard on the inside of the tank. And yes after a while it does flake off. You could try rattling a bag of pebbles round inside to get the loose stuff off then use petseal to seal the tank. Thats what I did with my old S3.