Triumphrat

scooty27

Hey there, owned my bike for 3 months now and love it too bits (apart from last sunday). Went to skid the wheels on a winding road and about 30mins into it it was like someone had turned the ignition key off. When it cooled down off i went again for a while, now won't go. Ging to rip the tank off tonight and check for spark, has anyone come accross this before? If so can you rebiuld them (I see you can get into the circiut board), can i put another trick module in it? :???: tonyscott@slingshot.co.nz

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Nickwiz

Had a 1991 1200 Trophy did the very same thing. On the right hand side of the engine there is a circular cover over the end of the crank. Remove it and you will see the ignition pick up. My bet is the wires have got cracked insulation and are sitting very close to the crankcase. As everything heats up and expands bare wire touches cases and shorts the ignition pickup out. Or as a bit of vibration comes through they touch and the same happens. Sounds far fetched but I changed ignition coils and plugs leads etc until I discovered this. Drove me nearly mad. I replaced the pickup, easily done just unscrew the two screws unplug the connector on the wire ( Its a fiddle as its hiding under the carbs near the rear shocker ) and put a new one in. Shouldn't have a problem after that. I didn't. Good luck.

Lurch

Nick, you're almost there with your response.

Scooty, When you get the crank cover off and you see your ignition pick-up coil, pull it out and toss it in the trash can. Replace with a new one and live happily ever after.

The ignition pick up coils have become notorious for failing.

When they do, they will short out when the engine has come up to operating temps switching off the fire to the engine, and then they will fail all together rendering your engine life-less.

Happened to my 95 900 Trident, and my buddy's 95 1200 Daytona.

Lurch

SpitfireTriple

Lurch
Sounds like you may well have found the only real solution. Ive been having this problem for a while now on my D900. The engine cuts out abruptly about 10 min into a ride.

Oddly though, once I get the bike restarted I can "ride through" the sensitive temperature region then the bike is fine till I stop and it cools then I have the same thing again.

Ive been tolerating the hiccup for a while, but cant take the risk of the bike letting me down completely half-way across France or wherever. So maybe its time for me to shell out for a new pick-up coil. Might check first to see if there are any bare wires though, being a skinflint.

Apologies for no apostrophes but I seem to get some kind of search facility popping up when I press the apostrophe key

[ This message was edited by: SpitfireTriple on 2006-02-21 10:49 ]

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scooty27

Unfortunatly you can't test them other than buy a new one and try it. Well i am off to the dealership to price and order one.
Next thing is to rejet the carbs? Any suggestions on sizes, changed a classic sidecar from 120's to 165's what a difference (86 gsxr1100).

scooty27

Just went down and ordered the crank pole sensor, not too badly priced $137 NZ dollars, $80 US and around $58 pounds. Spoke to the service manager and he said he would put his testicles on the line that is the problem, if its the ignitor they can be rebiuld by certain techno wizzards.

All good..

Brooksie

Great advise from you guys! What a resource!

j98sprint

I'm on my 4th pick-up coil. The first two were "Gill" and lasted 33,000 miles and 43,800 miles respectivly. Number 3 was a German made "PVL", it only lasted about 8,000 miles. Number 4, also a "PVL", has been in service a couple of months. I hope it lasts longer than #3.

When they start to go, they do exactly as you describe.

j98sprint

scooty27

I just fitted my new one on the weekend, looked completly different to the old one. My bike lives again, I am happy.
I also put new main jets in the carbs, went from 112.5 to 140's. Has a hell of a lot more top end now, the front wheel comes up with ease now.