Triumphrat

silvoor · 02-18-2006, 03:36 PM

I replaced the stock headlight bulbs with the "new and improved" bulbs of the same wattage but "50% brighter".

They do put out a brighter beam.

I bought Phillips but all the big names make them.

Mad · 02-18-2006, 04:23 PM

These are the brightest bulbs I have found so far. I have them on the Daytona, the S3, and the Hayabusa. I have tried them all and these Xenon blue kryptons are absolutly the brightest bulb available.
Mad`
Xenon Blue Krypton Bulbs

Stlakid · 02-19-2006, 04:31 PM

You don't want to use ANY coated Blue bulb as it's all hype! The blue coating filters out the light to 'Look' brighter thats all. And the term filter should be a clue....you WILL lose usable light. The ONLY way for these bulbs to get brighter is to up the wattage to overcome the blue filter which can and does overheat the stock Triumph wiring. There are some quality 'Blue Glass' bulbs available but the effects are the same, just maybe not as severe. Those are NOT them. My bet is if you look it will say 'Made in Korea' on those in which case they aren't worth buying.

The +50 White bulbs that Silvoor bought are the best you can do with the stock wiring on these bikes and they are a good upgrade. Just buy a reputable brand such as Osram Silverstar (not Sylvania) GE Mega Light or the Power Bulbs House branded stuff. (which are GE bulbs re-boxed) They are having a buy one set get a set free right now as well. Killer deal! Free marker lites and free shipping world wide as well. I got my Osram's in four days from them. (before the special sale of their brand)

Power Bulbs

Mad · 02-19-2006, 07:09 PM

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On 2006-02-19 14:31, Stlakid wrote:
You don't want to use ANY coated Blue bulb as it's all hype! The blue coating filters out the light to 'Look' brighter thats all. And the term filter should be a clue....you WILL lose usable light. The ONLY way for these bulbs to get brighter is to up the wattage to overcome the blue filter which can and does overheat the stock Triumph wiring. There are some quality 'Blue Glass' bulbs available but the effects are the same, just maybe not as severe. Those are NOT them. My bet is if you look it will say 'Made in Korea' on those in which case they aren't worth buying.

The +50 White bulbs that Silvoor bought are the best you can do with the stock wiring on these bikes and they are a good upgrade. Just buy a reputable brand such as Osram Silverstar (not Sylvania) GE Mega Light or the Power Bulbs House branded stuff. (which are GE bulbs re-boxed) They are having a buy one set get a set free right now as well. Killer deal! Free marker lites and free shipping world wide as well. I got my Osram's in four days from them. (before the special sale of their brand)

Power Bulbs

Your right man. That's why Mercedes and Porsche use them. Good call, you are the man.
Mad`

Cerberus · 02-19-2006, 09:10 PM

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On 2006-02-19 17:09, Mad wrote:

Your right man. That's why Mercedes and Porsche use them. Good call, you are the man.
Mad`

Merc and Porche use actual HID bulbs(plasma light), not incandescent bulbs with blue filters.
check your facts.

Stlakid · 02-20-2006, 04:11 AM

Cerb, just so you know there is a Fret here, you just met him. :thump:

Cerberus · 02-20-2006, 05:59 PM

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On 2006-02-20 02:11, Stlakid wrote:
Cerb, just so you know there is a Fret here, you just met him. :thump:

thanks for the heads up.

daytonacharlie · 02-21-2006, 08:11 PM

I've been using 55/100 watt H4 bulbs in my '96 D12 for 8 years now with no wiring problems at all. There's something special about having 200 watts of retina melting high beam power on a mountain road at night. I know they're allegedly for off road use but I'm always quick to dim them when on coming traffic appears. There's no replacement for wattage displacement.

Stlakid · 02-22-2006, 05:33 AM

I used the same bulb in my 900F Honda. I even stepped up to the 90/130 bulb. (single headlight) I also had no problems with either setup. I don't know what wire gage they used in 1996, but I do know that Triumph is known to have 'Over Engineered' the earlier models and possibly that included the wire gage they used for the headlight. I'm pretty sure the light housing is probably bigger on your model (less heat) as compared to the newer 'molded in' look of the newer bikes. So for you and the earlier models it may be just fine, but most of the newer stuff and definitely on the RS I have the wire gage is at least one size to small for the standard bulbs. They look to be 14 gage and most would recommend a minimum of a 12 gage wire for a 120 watt (10 amp) load. I just feel better if I'm giving out advise to error to the safe side.

If the wiring would handle it and the sockets or maybe even the housing wouldn't melt from the heat I would be using the 55/100's on my RS for the very reasons you like them, I just don't feel like doing a rewire or ad a relay to the setup with better sockets for the short time I will probably have the high beams on.

Being that it would probably be short time use it may be OK as you have found, I just don't feel comfortable telling people it WILL be OK unless I'm very sure, and the parts used in the late model stuff just doesn't inspire confidence for a higher load.

daytonacharlie · 02-22-2006, 11:24 AM

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On 2006-02-22 03:33, Stlakid wrote:

Being that it would probably be short time use it may be OK as you have found, I just don't feel comfortable telling people it WILL be OK unless I'm very sure, and the parts used in the late model stuff just doesn't inspire confidence for a higher load.

Stlakid you are correct to err on the side of caution especially when it concerns electrics. I agree with your assessment that the earlier T3's were over engineered (and over weight) and I'm sure that's why I've had no problems with my setup.

silvoor, what model Triumph do you ride?