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Old 11-26-2012, 05:50 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Trouble..wont start T595

Hi folks,
My beautiful Daytona T595 wont start
It fired up then after about 5 secs bogged down cut out and now wont start....fault light is on.
Now before i start the fault finding mission...thought id post a few odd things that have happened over the last couple of days before this non starting dying issue.

Bike was running sweet...very well indeed... just rode 160 miles from bournemouth to nuneaton last sunday and came back monday with no problems.
Tuesday i rode the bike to work fine ...later was told by a colleague that i had left my lights on....odd i thought as i had the key in my pocket. Sure enough though the light was on...it wouldn't turn off...put key in ignition turned ignition on .... nothing...repeated this a few times and then light went out and all seemed fine....maybe a sticking relay ....i thought. It was only the left hand light that was stuck on...my bike has the usual relay mod so bothe come on in normal use.
Later that evening when i went to start the bike it didn't start first time...which is odd as it usually does. After a few attempts it fired up..it sounded as though it was only firing on two for a couple of seconds but then ran ok. It did the light staying on thing again when i got home but after turning the ignition off and on it went out.
Was a bit concerned with this odd behavior but forgot about it as bike was fine for the last few days.
The bike wasn't used over the weekend..went to start it today and that's when the problem occurred ...now it is dead. Battery is charged, lots of fuel. Ps it is very wet and damp today.

any pointers from anyone would be appreciated.....
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Jonty
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Old 11-26-2012, 06:25 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Whenever electrical gremlins show up on a T595 the first thing to look to is the ground (earth) block

That is where all the system ground retuns (earths) come together into a terminal block, located in the battery box
It is prevalent failure item and it may show indications of burning (as shown below)



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Old 11-26-2012, 06:36 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Thanks for the heads up on the earth block ...will check it out in the morning
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Old 11-27-2012, 07:13 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Jonty, The LHS headlamp has two relays, main and dip. The RHS headlamp uses no relays. The relays are energized via the RHS headlamps main or dip leads.

One of the relays failed to break the contact when power was removed from the RHS headlamp. My first guess is the one associated with what the dip switch was set to. Fuse 6 powers the LHS headlamp.

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Jonty, Sorry, but I had to drop off with only half of my intended post finished. I went to another thread afterwards and forgot about this one!

Now to the no-start part, which was primarily just some questions. Is the starter cranking the engine as usual? Do you smell raw fuel? Do you hear the fuel pump prime? Did you swap any of the relays for the headlamp problem?

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Old 11-28-2012, 06:54 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Thanks for all the help guys!!
Brad...Yep think you are correct relay was a little loose...vibes off the previous weekends trip probably to blame.
Starting issue now sorted...The Culprit???
Water in the tank...lots of water...blocked drain holes in filler cap to blame.
So ..new fuel filter ...new fuel pump gasket...stuck some new plugs in and whilst there had the valve clearances checked and a few shims replaced.
A happy bike again...just minus a few quid..
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Jonty
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Jonty, I think I'd still check the LHS headlamp whenever the ignition is turned off.

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Yes will keep checking it. All is well at the mo....its parked outside my window and its dark out there
So anyone know a decent raincover for this size bike as it has to live outside...have purchased one too small...and one too big...both returned to shop???
Jonty

Ps here's a pic taken a few months ago..30000 miles and a clean machine.

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