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Daytona Deliberations For owners and riders of Daytona 900, 955, 1000 & 1200

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Old 11-06-2012, 06:08 AM   #1 (permalink)
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New T595 owner - couple questions

Hi all, I just bought a '97 t595 for touring purposes.
The bike runs good, but in the 1st gear at very low revs it feels like there's very little throttle response, as if there is a gap till the torque comes in. Is this normal? I also discovered there is almost NO rear brake...

On another subject, can anyone recommend a pais of soft saddle bags that would mount tight without supporting frames?
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:55 PM   #2 (permalink)
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No rear brake is normal. At least for my '98 Daytona. You could swap out the master cylinder for one with a different piston diameter to get more feel in the line. I basically ignore the rear other than for slow pace stopping or U-Turns. The throttle free play may need to be reduced or the fuel trim adjusted. Take a look at the TuneECU subforum for tuning issues. I don't know what's available where you live, but I have RKA soft bags that mount without frames. Most soft luggage does as long as you have the passenger pegs/brackets to tie to. Welcome. The Daytona seems like a strange choice for touring, but that's an individual choice I suppose.
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Old 11-07-2012, 04:21 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Thanks that was helpful. I know it's not the first bike that comes to mind as a tourer Having considered many bikes, it was either going to be a KTM 990, Ducati ST4s or this one. KTM was huge, and although I know the ST4 would be more comfortable for a long trip, having 2 Ducs already, I guess I wanted a change. If I see that it's the wrong decision, I will change it after the trip
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Old 11-07-2012, 06:53 AM   #4 (permalink)
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mr. monduc, The rear brake performance can be improved by cleaning the brake pistons and using EBC HH pads, same for the front brakes. The rear brake will still be weak compared to some other motorcycles The brakes are manufactured by Nissin.

My '98 pulls well from anything above idle although better above 3K RPM. Except for some changes regarding ECU inputs, the '97 and '98 T595 is very similar. Unless you know better, a mechanical tune-up followed by some fine tuning using TuneECU can help. With motorcycles this old, the rubber hoses inside the fuel tank and vacuum lines to the throttle bodies are failing at an increasing rate.

The most I've packed required borrowing a rack bag from my bicycles mounted on the pillion saddle and a back pack. I imagine any soft bag pannier that doesn't contact the muffler will work.

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mr. monduc, The rear brake performance can be improved by cleaning the brake pistons and using EBC HH pads, same for the front brakes. The rear brake will still be weak compared to some other motorcycles The brakes are manufactured by Nissin.

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Agree with Brad on the rear brakes. Try removing the rear caliper from the mount, pop the pads out and change them for EBC HH or Brembo sintered pads (do the same for the front for much improved stopping power too) get some brake cleaner and a toothbrush and gently get to work, get a piece of wood about 1.5 cm thick and push the pistons out with the brake lever to meet it, gently wiggle the wood free and clean the newly exposed pistons with the soft brush and plenty of brake cleaner removing any build up, clean up the edges of the pads and the corresponding faces on the caliper. Rebuild and re fit. Mind your fingers and don't get them trapped between the pistons if you push them out a little with the brake lever. Use a piece of wood.

Soft luggage. Triumph did some throw over soft panniers for the S3 and Daytona, I have some for my 06 Daytona, they strap under and over the pillion seat. They come up on eBay every now and then, they come with bolt on plastic moulded covers to protect the rear bodywork panels. However, there are many soft luggage throw over panniers on the market that are just as good, just remember to tape up the rear side panels with electrical tape or duck tape (not masking tape) so the luggage doesn't rub the paintwork. Consider getting a Baglux Tankbag too. Rentec also do a rear frame for luggage on a Daytona that you can buy a waterproof sack and strap it to that.

Remember when packing luggage, spread it out on the bed before you pack, half it, and half it again. Consider wearing old underwear and T shirts and throw it away rather than wash it if you are touring for a long weekend. When I go for a week or more, after day 4, I start throwing away the underwear rather than washing it. I only every took three pairs of underwear, wear one, wash one, dry one and cycle it all that way.

As for performance, the triple is not a twin, the power band is at the top end of the rev range and not at the bottom end compared with your Ducati. Things don't start getting interesting until I hit 8K revs on my bike. My son has a Ducati 600SS and he flies out of the corners as it pulls like a train from much lower down in the rev range.
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