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post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old 10-26-2012, 12:45 AM Thread Starter
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What to look for when buying (98 t595)

First off... What a misleading model designation lol.

I may be looking at a 98 t595 as a trade for my 600cc sport bike...

I'm utterly unfamiliar with these Daytonas having only seen new Triumphs at the dealer or a few Daytona 675's at the track.

What should I be looking for as model specific issues?

Also... How much of the S3 can be bolted on? Thats what'd I'd rather have
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..... What should I be looking for as model specific issues... How much of the S3 can be bolted on? Thats what'd I'd rather have
Look at typical cycle stuff that go for any used bike: tires, brakes, wheel bearings, suspension seals etc;
Motor itself pretty reliable
Some minor electrical issues that are inexpensively resolved (search on ground block)

To latter part of question pretty much all s3 parts bolt on directly - I think only part that won't are turn signals mount on radiator
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Ahks, There have been many Daytona to Speed Triple conversions so there's many that can help. You can also sell the un needed Daytona body parts to offset the conversion cost somewhat.

There was only one problem associated with a fairly small percentage of '97 and early '98 Daytonas and that was a failed fourth gear. Primarily it failed pretty early at low mileage and a redesigned gearset came online at engine number 57946. Engine numbers are usually a little higher than the VIN sequence (LHS of headtube) so it's an easy verification. The ground block can be replaced, if needed, inexpensively.

At this point there are more issues related to age than specific model issues, primarily with rubber hoses in the gas tank and the rubber vacuum lines. Otherwise it's just basic used vehicle items.

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Exactly what I was looking for guys. Thanks.

Weathers turned crap here already so not sure when I'll get a chance to look at it.

Not sure if it's worth trading to an older bike with more miles on the clock from a bike that has proven to be utterly bullet proof... but that gen of daytona/s3 has almost everything that I find attractive in a bike
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If you really want a 'naked' Speed Triple, why not hold out for one rather than convert a Daytona?
(although the performance is higher)
Used OEM S3 parts (like the headlights and top triple clamp) are not that readily available on EBay and new is expensive.
Just a caution
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1. Availability. I see so few bikes that match my wants in the Detroit area that I'd be willing to make a concession.

2. I like projects. And probably wouldn't do a vanilla s3 conversion

But I have yet to see this thing with my eyes and talk to the owner face to face. Bikes are purely recreation for me and are thus almost purely an emotional thing rather than logical

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.... I see so few bikes that match my wants in the Detroit area ...
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I see what you mean - just took a look on CraigsList for Detroit Metro for Triumphs and there is pretty much NOTHING .........
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I see what you mean - just took a look on CraigsList for Detroit Metro for Triumphs and there is pretty much NOTHING .........
Anything not Harley or Japanese I4 is rare and at a premium in this area Really not a fan of the bike culture here.
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Well I just went and looked at and test rode the bike...

The power is impressive, and scary. The torque is nice. The plastics are in decent shape...

Its got a wunoff brand undertail exhaust... Like this one http://i.imgur.com/9xRvg.jpg

It stalled while warming up, is that normal?

The owner says it has "cams" in it, according the previous owner... unknown make, model, spec.

The owner says the PO also installed an aftermarket header... no way to verify that at this point.

It seems to run great, if loud but it has what appears to be a cheap integrated tail...

It doesn't feel as refined as my Honda. I didn't expect it too
But not sure what to expect and not sure what I'm thinking about the deal at this point.
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Ahks, My '98 will stall during warm-up sometimes, but not usually. There are very few aftermarket cams or exhaust systems available for these engines. There were some developed in England for a race series early on so I'm curious as to who's cams are in the engine and I'm not familiar with that exhaust. Any, at least most, tuning issues can be resolved with TuneECU.

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PS These gen1 engines are mechanically noisey, just in case that caused alarm.

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