Look at typical cycle stuff that go for any used bike: tires, brakes, wheel bearings, suspension seals etc;
Motor itself pretty reliable
Some minor electrical issues that are inexpensively resolved (search on ground block)
To latter part of question pretty much all s3 parts bolt on directly - I think only part that won't are turn signals mount on radiator
Ahks, There have been many Daytona to Speed Triple conversions so there's many that can help. You can also sell the un needed Daytona body parts to offset the conversion cost somewhat.
There was only one problem associated with a fairly small percentage of '97 and early '98 Daytonas and that was a failed fourth gear. Primarily it failed pretty early at low mileage and a redesigned gearset came online at engine number 57946. Engine numbers are usually a little higher than the VIN sequence (LHS of headtube) so it's an easy verification. The ground block can be replaced, if needed, inexpensively.
At this point there are more issues related to age than specific model issues, primarily with rubber hoses in the gas tank and the rubber vacuum lines. Otherwise it's just basic used vehicle items.
Weathers turned crap here already so not sure when I'll get a chance to look at it.
Not sure if it's worth trading to an older bike with more miles on the clock from a bike that has proven to be utterly bullet proof... but that gen of daytona/s3 has almost everything that I find attractive in a bike
If you really want a 'naked' Speed Triple, why not hold out for one rather than convert a Daytona?
(although the performance is higher)
Used OEM S3 parts (like the headlights and top triple clamp) are not that readily available on EBay and new is expensive.
Just a caution
1. Availability. I see so few bikes that match my wants in the Detroit area that I'd be willing to make a concession.
2. I like projects. And probably wouldn't do a vanilla s3 conversion
But I have yet to see this thing with my eyes and talk to the owner face to face. Bikes are purely recreation for me and are thus almost purely an emotional thing rather than logical
The owner says it has "cams" in it, according the previous owner... unknown make, model, spec.
The owner says the PO also installed an aftermarket header... no way to verify that at this point.
It seems to run great, if loud but it has what appears to be a cheap integrated tail...
It doesn't feel as refined as my Honda. I didn't expect it too
But not sure what to expect and not sure what I'm thinking about the deal at this point.
Ahks, My '98 will stall during warm-up sometimes, but not usually. There are very few aftermarket cams or exhaust systems available for these engines. There were some developed in England for a race series early on so I'm curious as to who's cams are in the engine and I'm not familiar with that exhaust. Any, at least most, tuning issues can be resolved with TuneECU.
Brad
PS These gen1 engines are mechanically noisey, just in case that caused alarm.
I found a sale thread for this bike on a local forum... from the guy who owned it before this guy. No mention of header or cams... SO. Chalk that up to BS
Is Black Widow the model of Wunoff? It's def a wunoff. Welded on badging says so at least. Loud as ****. I'd be looking into baffles or packing the thing somehow.
And heres a pic of the bike from the owner before the guy that owns it now (the sale thread on a local board didn't mention the header or cams, so I'm writing that off as BS)
Ahks, Even though it was remotely possible, I was very doubtful WRT the headers and cams remark. Those are the OEM primaries and collector. There was a "race kit" offered by Triumph that changed the exhaust cam to what has become known as the 1999 cam, which is five degrees advanced compared to the '97 and '98 cam. Some later production '98s appear to have that cam anyways, BTW. The exhaust cam didn't add power, but smoothed idle somewhat from all that I've read.
The wheels are either repainted or from a later gen1 D955i. Other aftermarket additions are the Corbin saddle, Sky King sliders and turn signals.
Brad
PS Any tuning system works best with a dyno and an EGA, but many non performance items can be tinkered with. We have a fair collection of proven tunes and a knowledge base of TuneECU users that I think is second to none.
Another bit that popped into mind when I was writing my stream of consiousness is the trans...
Anyone have a comparison to a sportster or a honda cbr? The shifter felt sloppy and notchy, nuetral was hard to find... But while accelerating, hold the shifter up, slight clutch squeeze, throttle twitch and it shifts like butter thru the gears.
Id also like to apologize for the barrage. I love my CBR and will be rather sour if I move to a different bike that ends up screwing me
Ahks, Neutral is pretty easy to find for me and I come from a long line of Kawasakis with a positive neutral finder. Clutch adjustment and oil can make a difference in shifting. So can a shifter that's not in a position that you're used to. For a comparison I can only use a RC51 and a ZX6. The RC was pretty much the same and the ZX6 was easier WRT shifter effort and 'snickability'. A non linkaged shifter from the '00 or '01 will help if you prefer a longer throw when shifting.
Ahks, We forgot to answer one of your questions, unless I read over it...T595 was the internal model designation, it appeared on the early production models similar to Chevrolet's Z28 designation. It caused confusion as to displacement and was deleted for '99.
We've got rain and cold in the forecast for the next couple days being on the western edge of the "Sandy" weather system. I'm gonna contact the guy tomorrow and see if I can drop by with a check list and go over the bike real well, and hopefully with a friend.
It already passed the emotional tests and it is straight and runs straight (did the 30mph let go of the handlebars test) So if it passes a relatively objective inspection... and is still available... I'll go forward with it.
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