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02-20-2010, 09:20 AM
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Tinkle tinkle noise just after tyre change!
when doing about 15MPH, under very light braking, I hear this tinkle tinkle noise. It has only happened about 4-5 times and only today... about 90-120 miles since front tyre was swapped by a Triumph dealer! Sounds like the sound of a couple of coins touching each other in your pocket. But only a short tinkle for about 0.5 seconds or so at a time. Should I go back to the shop and mention it? I have given the front end a good visual look-over and don't see anything unusual apart from a few new scratches on the bottom of the forks and some excess copper grease that has been applied to the axle on re-assembly. Have checked caliper and axle pinch bolts for torque (a rough check by hand) seemed a little uneven, but at least they weren't going to fall out.
Cheers!
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02-20-2010, 10:47 AM
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Location: Pearland, TX
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loonatron, The usual concern with a front wheel refitment is whether the speedo drive was installed correctly. As it can be costly, it's worth having the shop double check.
Brad
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02-20-2010, 04:04 PM
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250 Grand Prix Favourite Bike: T595
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Floating disc thingys? Their name escapes me. I am getting old!
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02-27-2010, 11:53 PM
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Super Sidecars Favourite Bike: 02 Daytona 955i
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Its an 02 model, is mine one of the fragile, difficult to assemble types? Took it back to the shop, the customer service guy took it for a spin, but he couldn't hear the noise I was talking about. A week later, I lifted the wheel off the ground, and turned the wheel by hand, and occasionally can hear a tick tick that seems to be once or twice every revolution, but it comes and goes (was turning the wheel by hand for about 5-10mins) Is it worth pulling the wheel off to check upon re-assembly? Is it hard to re-assemble? Just nervous about pulling it apart after hearing how easy it is to break the magnet. Maybe I should just go back outside and bite the bullet!
(Mark, wasn't sure what the floating disc thingys were)
Last edited by Tonatron; 02-27-2010 at 11:57 PM.
Reason: detail correction
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02-28-2010, 09:00 AM
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loonatron, Yes, it's the fragile one. No, it's not difficult to remove/reinstall. Just insure the tabs on P8 fit into the slots of P11 as the assembly is slid into the fork legs and remain in position as you tighten the axle.
Hint; A couple of layers of painter's tape on the wheel will help prevent scratching the wheel when removing the brake calipers.
Brad
PS Mark, may be thinking of the bobbins (rivits) that attach the rotor to the carrier and allow it to move side to side. They can become caked with brake dust, requiring a cleaning with brake cleaner and a toothbrush. If that's the problem the clicking won't happen when both calipers are removed.
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03-01-2010, 04:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bradtx
loonatron, Yes, it's the fragile one. No, it's not difficult to remove/reinstall. Just insure the tabs on P8 fit into the slots of P11 as the assembly is slid into the fork legs and remain in position as you tighten the axle.
Hint; A couple of layers of painter's tape on the wheel will help prevent scratching the wheel when removing the brake calipers.
Brad
PS Mark, may be thinking of the bobbins (rivits) that attach the rotor to the carrier and allow it to move side to side. They can become caked with brake dust, requiring a cleaning with brake cleaner and a toothbrush. If that's the problem the clicking won't happen when both calipers are removed.
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That`s it, `bobbins` was the word I was looking for. They are the round things that link the inner disc to the outer disc. When new they are usually pretty rigid with little tolerance but as they wear they can make noises occasionally.
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03-03-2010, 12:58 AM
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Any new or unusual noise heard after wheel/tire work should be thoroughly investigated and positively identified. It could be inconsequential, moderately expensive, or something that throws you on your head. Don't take any chances. I would insist (in a friendly way) that the dealer take it apart and inspect it, preferably while you are there. Don't do it yourself and muddy the waters.
just my two cents,
Phil
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03-16-2010, 01:56 AM
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Any new or unusual noise heard after wheel/tire work should be thoroughly investigated and positively identified. It could be inconsequential, moderately expensive, or something that throws you on your head. Don't take any chances. I would insist (in a friendly way) that the dealer take it apart and inspect it, preferably while you are there. Don't do it yourself and muddy the waters.
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Thanks for the 2c. This has influenced me in my decision to take it back rather than pull it apart... The noises are still happening a couple of weeks on... Was waiting till I could prove it was not engine or gearbox noise before taking it back, when it started to make the noise, I popped it into neutral (when I had a safe opportunity without too much traffic around!) and killed the engine. Could still hear it, so most likely it is definately the front hub. (Definately sounds like its coming from the front)
Cheers all for your suggestions! Will post back after I take it in to the Triumph dealer for another look.
Loonatron.
Last edited by Tonatron; 03-16-2010 at 01:57 AM.
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03-16-2010, 08:33 AM
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So I lubricated the chain today (a bit over 500k's since I last did it) and the tinkle tinkle sound went away, (tested on a 30 kilometer ride) but the (minor) tick tick sound is still there!!! I could have sworn the tinkle tinkle was coming from the front end... Whoops. anyway, I'll still take it to the dealer to have a listen to the tick tick sound! (happens every half revolution of the front wheel actually.)
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03-16-2010, 11:22 AM
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loonatron, It's odd how sound migrates within that fairing! Double check that your upper rubber chain rubbing block isn't worn causing the chain to rub the swingarm.
Brad
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