Triumphrat

roonanroon · 11-18-2009, 06:50 PM

Having bought my '99 daytona the last week it was time to change oil and filter since it was last changed 18 months ago but had only covered a thousand miles. Dropped the oil which was pretty clean.

The oil filter tool wouldn't turn the filter..even when I covered filter with a rag for better grip. As it sits now the tin work is cut/torn and shredded after trying the old screw driver, drifts and grips on it.

Has anyone had similar problems? It looks like I'll have to remove as much tin work and filter element as I can in order to get to the centre tube. I dont know why folk over tighten these things.

KLboxeR · 11-18-2009, 08:44 PM

I hate when that happens. You're right, people way over tighten them.

Last time this happened to me, I had to get all the filter body out then make up an adapter that would turn the filter base out using the holes in the base.

Take a round piece of flat metal and weld some pins to it that will match up with the holes in the filter base. Weld an old socket to it so you can get an extension on it and twist away. Now that the tin is gone, try and prep it with penetrating oil so the gasket might soften up a bit.

If you can't fab the tool yourself, it'll pay to have someone make it up for you. You really only have one more chance to get it off there without things getting expensive

I had a stuck filter on my Daytona and used a rubber glove between the filter and wrench. It worked pretty well and got it off without having to hack it up.

Good luck

roonanroon · 11-19-2009, 02:13 AM

Thanks, I'll have to take my time with it and get it right.

Linz · 11-19-2009, 04:26 AM

Consider a stainless steel medical grade filter inside a billet body which is cleanable and reusable. K&P make excellent models.

They come with a filter removal tool and several 'O' Rings.

Folks don't think twice about reusable air filters but rarely consider reusable oil filters.

If you're going to keep the bike for a while (like me) the financial investment is returned after about 6 oil changes.

I've run these on a Laverda, two Triumphs and my BMW's and never had a problem. For the first time since I owned the bike (3 years) and I've had the K&P on it from oil change one, I'm going to get a Blackstone Labs report on the next changed oil. That will tell me how the bike is travelling wear-wise and how the filter is performing.

Linz

Speed3 · 11-19-2009, 08:50 AM

Roonanroon, I have the wrench like this one http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/product...ch_cht424.html

It will remove even the most stuck filter. Give it a try.

bradtx · 11-19-2009, 09:47 AM

roonanroon, Make sure you get all of the old gasket off also, having been there I sympathize with you.

Linz, Thanks for the info! I've used Oberg filters before and thought there might be a similar unit for the motorcycles.

Brad

97TB · 11-19-2009, 09:56 AM

uggh, if the screwdriver trick didn't work then that sucker is really stuck!

roonanroon · 11-19-2009, 04:14 PM

Okay, update. The filter now resembles the shell of a tooth.

The bottom end is off and all the filter element has been removed. I can feel the top of it on the threaded tube and the 8 drain holes. I put round nose pliers into the drain holes and the pliers flexed, no movement. I used the fork end of a tack removal tool in one of the holes and tapped with a hammer...still no joy.

Spoke to my friend who has a new bonneville and we're looking into the idea of making up a tool with 4 bolts on a plate to try.

Does anyone know if the threaded tube that the filter is screwed onto can be removed from the engine as it stands? If the tube can be removed then it would make life easier. I'll call a triumph dealer tomorrow and ask a mechanic if he has made up a tool for this already.

Speed3 · 11-19-2009, 05:44 PM

Sounds right fooked! Good luck. It seems you're far past the wrench suggestion stage...

roonanroon · 11-19-2009, 05:52 PM

Yeah, I'm at the praying stage and hoping I can free it without causing damage to the engine...