Triumphrat

m2bueller

Greeting all, Newbie here. I just picked up a 1997 595T, I supposedly has a 2002 955i motor. I do know it has a Jardine muffler that could possibly be a full exhaust system.
Apparently the PO needed to cut up the belly faring and the left side lower to clear the later model cases. I'm trying to find out what year fairings will work with a '97 frame and an'02 motor. The main fairing is in good shape and I would like to hang onto it but if it won't work with later model lowers then I'll have to replace it as well.

When the PO did the motor swap he also swapped to a 2002 tank. The tank has it's own set of mounting issues but I think I have them figured out.

Thanks
JT

DEcosse

Doubtful it is full system - most likely slip-on. I don't know of any full system for either first or second gen Triumph FI triples.
Show us some pics and we can help identify what you've got.
Daytona or S3 955 motor?

Early tank will fit but it is a squeeze. Check my sig pic for early tank over the 02+ motor/airbox. The early tank also has compatibility issues with the fuellevel sender however, but I have work-around for that also.

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m2bueller

I'll get some pics tomorrow.

During my research I also found out he converted to a 955i dash with a digital speedometer that doesn't work. I was reading about using a GSXR100 pickup. Is this applicable for a 1997 front end with a '02 dash? Worst case I can always use my GPS as a speedo but would really like to make the factory one work.
Th fuel sender seems to work okay. The light came on today while I was playing around and running it around the block. I'm sure there are a million things that will pop up that need to be looked at.

I'm no stranger to bikes but my last Triumph was a 1969 500.

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DEcosse

Is it only the speedometer part that doesn't work?
What did he use for speed sender? The original T595 had a mechanical drive speedo - the 02+ is electronic (as you already know) The 97-01 with mechanical drive has wheel with 25mm axle and speedo drive on right; the 02+ uses 20mm axle and speedo drive on the left.
HOWEVER - the Sprint 99-04 uses a 25mm electronic drive that is mechanically a perfect fit on the right side (Sprint & 97-01 wheels are interchanagable) and is also completely compatible electrically. That is truly plug n play solution.
Or you can use the method I authored using the GSXR sender.
Incidentally with no speedo sender connected, there would be an MIL (Triumph speak for Check Engine Light : MIL = Malfunction Indicator Lamp) with a P1501 or P1502 Error code.

Regarding the low fuel - sorry if I confused - with the 02+ tank then there should indeed be no problem with the fuel sender - I meant if you intended to go back to 'older' style tank 'that' would be incompatible in that regard.

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m2bueller

Yes
It's still got the original mechanical sender on the wheel not connected to anything. So right now I don't have a speedo except for my GPS
Great information! Do I need to source an ST wheel to make this work?

Would the codes show on the digital readout or do I need to get an OBDII reader to check them? I know the engine lamp is lit.

I'm working up a mount to use this thank. I've actually traced this tank back to the original owner and am waiting for any info he can give me on it. IE: what year it is.

The right side isn't bad.

The left side however is a rats nest. I'll be cleaning all that up correctly.

On a second look in the daylight it appears that the pipe is a slip on.


I also answered my own question on Body work. I found out the later lowers are not compatible with the 595T main fairing. I may be breaking out my fiberglass mat and resin to come up with some sort of workaround.

DEcosse, Thanks for all you help so far!

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DEcosse

Sprint Speedo drive is a direct plug in on your Daytona wheel - even the litte drive plate that is behind the grease seal will drive the electronic sender.

The lack of speed sender will DEFINITELY trigger an MIL - however there may be other reasons also so you need to pull the codes to find out what else there might be.
There is no way to read the codes on the cluster - need to have a reader hooked up to the OBD port (should be close to the battery)
An autoparts store will read those for you.

Also definitely a Daytona motor so good news there.

Yeah, that left side is sure messy - what are the red wires for?

Another thing I see - the R/R that is at the top/center of the bottom pic - what is that mounted to? Is that just bolted to the plastic fender/battery box?
If so, that is recipe for disaster - thing generates a TON of heat and will fail quickly. I had mine in similar location originally - lost the R/R and it took the stator with it.

What tail do you have for it?
another problem is the compatibility of the early tail to the 02+ tank - not sure if you can make that work.

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bradtx

JT, DEcosse has a pic with how the R/R should be mounted. The shifter is a '99-'01 unit that may place the shifter at the very toe of your boot. Get a '02-'04 shifter if you want to move it rearwards a bit.

Brad

PS I appears to me that the sidestand is extending a wee bit too far forward.

m2bueller

The thicker one goes to a relay, I think it's for the headlight. I have not figured out where the other goes yet. But both are straight runs to the + side of the battery.

THE R/R is hard mounted to a plate between the frame rails. I thought it was the original mounting. It is in direct path of the air duct on the side of the rear fairing. I am running the stock '97 tail section. it mates pretty well with the tank. You can see it in the following pic.

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m2bueller

Thanks but I have size 13 boots. It's one of the few bikes I haven't had to adjust the shifter to fit me.

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bradtx

JT, Looking at my '98 and my '04 I never would have guessed that the tail would fit the next gen tank so well! I can see how the LHS fairing might need some clearancing for the stator.

The Sprint speedo driver and some conversion house cleaning and you should be set.

Brad

PS Does you ECU have one or two connectors?

PPS Just noticed that it has the '02> D955 headers. That likely required some clearancing to the lower right and lower fairing as it'sbent differentlyand and a larger diameter.