Triumphrat

raggedraider

hey
you might rember me from post such as " i screwed up an oil change and now i need a clutch" - and things of the sort.

well i had changed he oil with dealer oil ( and filter ) - gave it a few weeks , buzzed it out a few times , tried hot , cold ect and have finnaly come to the big ugly conclusion -- its clutch time.

anybody do a clutch on a t-595 ?
is it a straight foward pull the plates put new plates in thing?
do i need a special triumph tool (s)

WHEN I PULL THE CLUTCH COVER ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE BIKE WILL I SEE MY CLUTCH BASKEK ? - or will i see a billion "other " things

my concern is cracking this thing apart for a 45 min tour of a basic mc clutch replacement and having it turn into a lesson in " why not to get involved with a triumph "
i have done plenty of clutches

thanx for any help

Linz

Hey Ragged, it may *not* be the clutch. It can take many oil changes to get rid of the crap off the clutch.

Was the clutch working perfectly prior to using the car oil? If so, I'd reckon that it's the car oil that did it.

I think that you have two choices:

1. Buy a LOT of cheap 10/40 motorcycle oil and change it out after a hard run about 3 times to see if there's an improvement. Keep the filter (after emptying it), change the oil.

2. Pull the clutch (potentially the most expensive route) and replace.

3. The lesson you'll have learned is not, not get involved with a Triumph, it's don't use friction modified car oil in a motorcycle with a wet clutch. It's not like no one has ever said that before...

Linz

raggedraider

id love to keep dumping oil into this thing

the clutch was fine

the question is

if i pull the cover will i see a clutch basket? -immediately , before my nose or-- is there layers of baffels / other covers

if i can pull the cover , remove the friction plates , and then replace the friction plates - ill do it

but if i need a tool or it gets complicated ( like 3 different types of friction plates , fly weights , hydrolic engaging mechinizims , ect ) - ill have it done by a pro

basic clutch - me doo
complicated clutch - triumph technition do

question ?
basic clutch?

bradtx

raggedraider, It's a fairly easy job. You'll find a cover (hat to some), drive and driven plates. Soak the new friction plates in motor oil prior to installation and pay attention to the arrangement of the plates. The haynes manual will help alot.

Brad

raggedraider

tats what i thought - but id hate to get the case open to find i need 20 gaskets i didnt have

thanx
and brad
i still owe you lunch from the last set of silly questions

thanx again

roger.alli

Hey raggedraider.

I’ve just partially rebuilt one of these engines. The best bit of advice I could give, is get yourself a Hanes manual for this motor. It is full of use full tips and photos for practical work by home mechanics. You can’t really do much on these bikes without either it or the Triumph workshop manual.

I have rescued a bike clutch that had car oil through it once before. All the friction plates and pressure plates can be cleaned with “Brake Cleaner”. This is pretty effective in removing oils, and so long as the clutch has not subsequently been “burnt out” it should go back into service ok. If the clutch has had some abuse you may need to replace the friction plates. The service limit is no less 3.6mm, and the pressure plate warpage should be not more then 0.2mm


The clutch is right behind the large right hand engine cover. It is easily accessed by removing this cover (after draining the oil). Be very careful removing the cover, and you should be able to reuse the gasket. You will need no special tools to disassemble the clutch, just remove the 5 bolts and clutch springs, loosening evenly. Watch for the little washers behind the bolts, inside the springs. Once these 5 bolts are removed, the clutch can be disassembled out of its basket. All the parts need to be re installed inexactly the same way they come out, so keep everything in order and note how all the parts orientate, so again I suggest the Hanes manual will provide all the answers. Especially if you mix some parts up.


It is actually a pretty simple job to service the clutch on these engines.

Roger

raggedraider

that , my friend --is excalty what i needed to hear !


thank you all - once again