Triumphrat

05-01-2005, 07:23 PM

hi, to you all i have just returned to triumph swapped my supermoto for a 97 daytona 1200 i,ve been enjoying the bike but after the rose specs came off i realised it needs a little attention valve clearances are due coming up to 30000mls and the front brake calipers are needing stripping i bought a haynes manual after getting a price of 170.00 to check the vale clearances. it looks to me like there is more work in getting to the valves body work etc is ti a straight forward job? ditto the brakes. after a single cylinder 660 its a bit of a shock but still good to be back on a triumph

kaosj · 05-02-2005, 09:14 PM

I just did my valves and it WAS a learning experience. I started with the Triumph tool attempting to do two shims at a time, I ended by pulling the cams and the radiator so I could actually get at the shims. Putting it back together took some time but pulling the cams was DEFINITELY the way to go. You will have to pull off the crankshaft cover so you can see the pickup and T1 mark. You endup pulling the tensioner which is described pretty cryptically in the Haynes manual but is actually a simple task. The wedge they talk about goes up into the void behind the camshaft chain blade tensioner just to keep pressure on the camshaft chain from behind. Make sure the camshaft chain is on the crankshaft sprocket which is behind the timing plate you use to line things up. You have to get down on the floor and look up with a flashlight to verify this. Once its all back together, turn the wheel over by hand alot to verify that the timing marks stay in sync. Agter that, button it up and your ready to go. I was able to reuse all the gaskets including the tensioner, crankcase cover, and valve cover gaskets.

05-03-2005, 04:40 PM

hi, thanks for the info i was wondering how long to allow for the job. i had a poor front brake but managed to free the calipers up which was a relief after getting prices for the rebuild kits. as for the valves time is always my enemy but for 170.00 i will try and find some

kaosj · 05-04-2005, 10:56 PM

I could have had mine done, with mistakes and corrections in a day - 8 hours. What you do is measure each of the clearances when its cam lobe is pointing directly away from the shim, write that clearance down and move to the next shim. There is a download sheet on this site to gather and record all your information. Then you remove the cams and look at all the shims where your clearances were out of spec. You then figure out the size of the new shim you need so that the clearance is brought back into spec. THIS IS THE TIME CONSUMING PART - getting ahold of the shims you need. I tried the local Honda and Yamaha shops and they would have ghad to order them. The Triumph shop had them but are 150 miles away. I had to wait a week for the parts which I couldn't order until I knew what sizes I needed, which I couldn't figure out until my bike was inoperable. As it was my bike was down a week even though I could have done the work in a day.

kaosj · 05-04-2005, 10:56 PM

I could have had mine done, with mistakes and corrections in a day - 8 hours. What you do is measure each of the clearances when its cam lobe is pointing directly away from the shim, write that clearance down and move to the next shim. There is a download sheet on this site to gather and record all your information. Then you remove the cams and look at all the shims where your clearances were out of spec. You then figure out the size of the new shim you need so that the clearance is brought back into spec. THIS IS THE TIME CONSUMING PART - getting ahold of the shims you need. I tried the local Honda and Yamaha shops and they would have ghad to order them. The Triumph shop had them but are 150 miles away. I had to wait a week for the parts which I couldn't order until I knew what sizes I needed, which I couldn't figure out until my bike was inoperable. As it was my bike was down a week even though I could have done the work in a day.

j98sprint · 05-05-2005, 09:15 AM

An option worth consideration is to strip the plastic, gas tank, coils, etc., anything else in the way up there and truck the bike to the shop. The valve clearance check will be a snap for the shop and you'll save a good amount of money.

j98sprint

j98sprint · 05-05-2005, 09:15 AM

An option worth consideration is to strip the plastic, gas tank, coils, etc., anything else in the way up there and truck the bike to the shop. The valve clearance check will be a snap for the shop and you'll save a good amount of money.

j98sprint

05-05-2005, 05:02 PM

hi, i was thinking about doing just that i think a lot of the cost would be the stripping and putting it back together . i also have a van getting the bike in might result in a hernia tho .

05-06-2005, 04:11 PM

i asked the dealers about a price to do the valves and he still said 3hours labour! after me stripping it down and taking it to the shop.!. i dont think i will deal with them again . mcs renfrew. ..

kaosj · 05-06-2005, 07:33 PM

I wish I could have done it in 3 hours. I'd guess I spent at least 8 hours working and reworking the task as it was my first time. I think I could probably do it in 6 next time because I saved all my shim sizes and will know before I take the cams off what I need. I'd have to say the dealers 3 hour estimate is a reasonable estimate. The problem will be that he wouldn't do as good a job in the long run as you will do because he's not attached to the bike. I found 3 clearances that were at the bottom of the spec - .10 mm for the intakes. The dealer would let that slide, I changed mine to put the clearance in the middle - .125 instead of living with something that could fall out of spec tomorrow. You can do it yourself, it'll just take some time. If you have the manual, a torque wrench, a METRIC feeler guage, and a basic set of tools it will just take some time and attention - its not that difficult a job.