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Old 12-13-2012, 12:42 PM   #31 (permalink)
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I would say those numbers look adequate Severeign.

You might also look into my mod for 'headlight cut until started' (as opposed to the OEM headlight cut while starting).
http://www.triumphrat.net/twins-tech...light-cut.html
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Old 12-13-2012, 01:03 PM   #32 (permalink)
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or this thing for you lot without light switch http://http://triumph-online.co.uk/easy-start-headlight-control-module-power-saving-module-single-h4-headlamps-5524-p.asp
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Old 12-13-2012, 02:47 PM   #33 (permalink)
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I was expecting to find the battery in a worse state than that but it would appear to be okay. I'll keep you posted as to how things go as there are months of cold starts ahead.

Two interesting mods for turning off the headlight, thanks for those. There is definitely some work to be done to cover all of the angles but between the Haynes manual and this forum maybe all hope is not lost (besides, my dad would never forgive me if I gave up a Triumph for another bike!).


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Old 12-13-2012, 03:22 PM   #34 (permalink)
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I've done simple regulator mod and my battery readings are;

Ignition off - 12.8v
Ignition on,light on - not running - 12.3v
bike engine running 1000rpm - 14.7
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Old 12-13-2012, 03:58 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Looking at that plug n play headlight delay module linked above, it would be very easy to build this yourself quite inexpensively.
I have added that as another option to my thread already linked above in post #31
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Old 12-14-2012, 05:39 AM   #36 (permalink)
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I'm not sure what voltage the ECU shuts the ignition circuit down (does anybody ?) but 12.14 volts can't be far away, if I had my running lights and heated grips on to.....?


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I haven't done the test as yet but I would be looking for a drop out voltage of between 9&10 volts.
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The other day when I had the dreaded 'click' it happened after a short run, about 45 mins running withe heated grips that only draw 3 amps and my aux lights (triumph lightbar), I left my bike for about an hour, went back to it, pressed the starter and it spun over no problem, plenty of battery I thought, however because I put my helmet on the mirror I couldn't give it any throttle to start, so removing my helmet I then tried to start again and had the click, this only seems to happen when I use the aux lights, bikes charging system has been checked out by the dealer. No problems, that's why I think the voltage drop trying to start with headlights & aux lights is just too much, of course this never happens when I've got a meter in my pocket !!


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The other day when I had the dreaded 'click' it happened after a short run, about 45 mins running withe heated grips that only draw 3 amps and my aux lights (triumph lightbar), I left my bike for about an hour, went back to it, pressed the starter and it spun over no problem, plenty of battery I thought, however because I put my helmet on the mirror I couldn't give it any throttle to start, so removing my helmet I then tried to start again and had the click, this only seems to happen when I use the aux lights, bikes charging system has been checked out by the dealer. No problems, that's why I think the voltage drop trying to start with headlights & aux lights is just too much, of course this never happens when I've got a meter in my pocket !!

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Without doing tests can't say what your problem is I have an America 2010 and run with twin aux. lights with no problems, but they do draw 7.5 amps, they are wired through a separate switch and relay.
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....this only seems to happen when I use the aux lights .... that's why I think the voltage drop trying to start with headlights & aux lights is just too much, of course this never happens when I've got a meter in my pocket !!
The headlight will be on when you first turn on ignition, although while starting it is actually turned off. I suspect your aux lights are possibly wired such that they don't turn off during starting process?

Using the mod I linked above, whatever lights are used, will ensure that the voltage is max prior to starting.
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Tipsi, whilst there are contributors on this thread with far more knowledge than I have there are two things that have changed for me in the last 48 hours.
1) Updated the map.
2) I've increased the idle speed a fraction more. Most of my riding is around the city and obviously if the battery isn't getting what it needs under those conditions then problems will arise.

It's a little early to think that the problems solved but the bike has been starting without issue. Might be worth a shot!


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