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Old 10-22-2012, 12:00 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Changing header pipe??

I have an 05 America which I plan to relocate the controls to a more standard position, so, I can lose bar for the forward controls. This got me thinking that I would then have enough clearance to install Bonnie or Thrux header pipes which would allow me to run the pipes closer to the frame in general. I realize I may need to fab new brackets further back and likely new hangers for the pipes themselves, but my primary question is whether or not the America/Speedy down-tubes are close enough together to allow use of the Bonnie headers to begin with??

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Old 10-23-2012, 07:12 AM   #2 (permalink)
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i don't know about the down tubes or headers but i like the idea of moving the pegs to a more standard position.

how are you planning to do this? i'm interested in doing this as well.
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How, I think, is going to depend on whether I can tighten the pipes up to the frame some. Just fitting a spare rear-set I have about where I want them doesn't quite give me the room I want. It would work, but I would need to place the pegs wider than I prefer so the compressed brake clears the pipe.

Right now, my ideal option is to find a complete set from a Scrambler, but the likely scenario is Busa or ZX rearset being adapted since they are plentiful.

Hopefully, if nobody knows if the pipes will fit, somebody has a BA/SM and a Bonnie and could at least take a few measurements for me. Otherwise, I guess I'll have to take the tape measure to the dealer
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Old 12-16-2012, 09:39 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Well, I'm not sure there was much interest in this when I first posted, but I figured I would updated it anyway. I bought a set of Tec -2-1 pipes for Bonne/Thrux & went to work.

Some notes:
1] Stock Bonnie head pipes would probably fit okay - These were more work.
2] The down tubes on the AM/SM are a little wider than the Bonnie. Adding the tabs for the forward controls, this 2-1 pipe had to fit a little wider than it was designed. As a result, the position where they are lined up to accept the collector changes. I had to cut 1/2 off the end of the right pipe so they would be in alignment at the collector.
3] I also had to put a slight indentation in the right pipe to clear the edge of the engine. Not doing this would have required the collector be aligned at a slight downward angle, and I wanted it straight.
4] The bracket for the collector lines up at the end of the down tube, so it is not difficult to fabricate a clamp and attach it to the frame rail.
5] Rear bracket mount is about 4" behind and slightly above the AM/SM stock bracket. I fabbed an aluminum bar mounting it to where the factory foot peg plates originally mounted.
6] It was more work than I expected. It looks better than the picture below shows it to. I'll post more (better) pics this week of the brackets.
7] Now to create some mid-pegs and controls so I can ride it.

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very nice...can't wait to see the mid-controls
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the mrs has a 2011 t100 bonnie and me A 2012 speedy .

which measurements do you want ...
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Well, I'm not sure there was much interest in this when I first posted, but I figured I would updated it anyway. I bought a set of Tec -2-1 pipes for Bonne/Thrux & went to work.
Very cool. Thanks for pushing forward with it and sharing the details.
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so there is no rush then for me to find a tape measure, that will teach me to read properly and not late at night,
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so there is no rush then for me to find a tape measure, that will teach me to read properly and not late at night,
Not a problem... would have helped 6 weeks ago but I pretty much made the decision I was going to gamble the cost of the new pipes anyway.. I bought them with no intention of them remaining in "returnable" condition .lol
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Old 12-19-2012, 09:24 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I'm always on the look out for Scrambler headers going cheap. Reckon hi level pipes would look cool and could keep the forward controls.


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