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Old 05-25-2010, 06:43 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Handlebars, Clutch Levers, Brake Levers, and Headaches

I have been doing my due diligence in terms of buying a new America (or Speedy) but I am a disabled rider so I must jump through hoops of fire in order to ride again.

I must control the front brake from the left side in some manner and it appears that I will end up using the stunt bike set up below to control both brake and clutch.

It looks like the Speedmaster is already out of the picture since there is no place to clamp the part due to the lack of space. The America appears to have enough space but I won't know until I buy the part and see what is involved. The Speedy also has dual discs which I love but controlling dual discs requires even more effort which concerns me.

The clutch lever is quite small and I don't know if it will provide enough leverage. Exactly how hard is it to pull in the clutch on the 2009 models?

Does anyone think I may be better off looking for an aftermarket handlebar that will provide exactly what I need or should I simply have a machine shop fabricate something in order to mount it to the stock bike?

Frankly I just can't seem to put together a "game plan" in terms of properly modifying the bike for my needs so if ANYONE has even the craziest idea please spit it out!

If Anyone Can Recommend A Shop That May Have Some Ideas I May Find Other Options I Haven't Yet Thought Of.
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Old 05-25-2010, 09:53 AM   #2 (permalink)
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That set-up looks good but the clutch lever is a little short, you might have some difficulty pulling it in. I would also be concerned with accidentally pulling both levers in at the same time. What have you done with other motorcycles? Or is this your first? I'm assuming you have a prosthetic of some sort that enables you to operate the throttle - a Ridley motorcycle is fully automatic so all you would have to do is switch the the brake lever over.





Not that I'm trying to persuade you to something other than a Triumph, but just looking for the best solution for you.
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Old 05-26-2010, 06:18 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Hey thanks for the reply.
After screwing around and trying different set ups IE: left hand throttle etc. I found a way to control the throttle Perfectly using a prosthetic type gizmo that I strap on my forearm. The hand is there, it just can't grab anything.
This will be my first "big" bike in 33 years.
I like this set up but I need to configure the braking system as safely as possible since I live in Florida, the land of blind old bags and the mentally incompetent.

My game plan at this point is to buy the bike, take the part shown along with the bike to a few first rate custom shops as well as a couple Triumph dealers and see what options they can provide.

If Anyone Has Even the Most Ridiculous Idea Please Let Me Know.
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How about a dual stage shift lever that clutches before it shifts? First inch or so of travel is clutch and then shift in the remaining travel. I would do this with a heel-toe assembly because it would probably result in stiffer shifting to overcome additional spring pressure. Then all you need is a brake lever on the left side grip.

It would require some ingenuity, but I'm sure it could be done.
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OK, so why can't you utilize linked brakes (i.e. front and rear actuated together) operated by the foot pedal? This would give you brakes that operate like those on a car. Several sport tourers (notably Hondas) fit linked brakes as standard, so it should be straightforward for a custom fabricator to fit them to about any bike.

Anyway, with all the brakes actuated by the right-hand pedal, no other control modification should be required.

Another combination control you might investigate is the CLAKE: http://www.clake.com.au/

Also, a quick GOOGLE uncovered this site that has good links to suppliers and fabricators: http://www.mtb-amputee.com/motorcycl..._Manufacturers.

Good luck!
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Coroja makes an excellent point with the linked brakes, however, I'm not sure I'd be comfortable with set-up without ABS.
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marc - I understand what you are saying, but I'm assuming that most people wouldn't ride a cruiser-style bike too hard anyway. I was thinking that might be the simplest solution, although perhaps not the best. I suppose you could implement it the way Honda does, so the pedal only actuates on front disc. Then you could use a Brembo thumb-brake master cylinder (used in moto-GP for rear brakes) to actuate the other front disc. That would give you a little more control in difficult situations, but it makes the control movement more complicated. I'm sure there is a good compromise, but it may not be cheap.
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Oh, it's not about riding it hard, it's about riding conditions and road conditions. If you have stop on a sandy patch or on gravel, you do not want to be heavy on the front brake. Any amount of defensive driving cannot prevent unforeseeable incidents that may require you to stop on a loose gravel shoulder or something. You need to have independent control of the front and rear brakes because each provides unique braking characteristics.

But, if you don't have that luxury because of a physical handicap, then I guess you just make do with a compromise.

The linked brakes certainly are the most practical solution, and maybe some kind of actuation valve could deliver more or less braking either to the front or back.
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I'm thinking stacked levers using a fabricated common mount.
I'm curious what you finally come up with, so please share once you do.
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Check this out: I went to motorcycle training class and part of the skills required is emergency stopping. I actually was able to "control" the front brake far better than I has assumed.
I may once again need to rethink my game plan.

QUESTION: Are there complete aftermarket brake systems that will provide a very sensitive and quick response when you engage the front lever?
Hell the factory set up may be all I need but I want to have the best possible braking system I can get due to my disability.
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