Triumphrat

CaptainAmerica · 11-16-2009, 12:55 PM

Hi All,
I'm riding with a new 2009 America. Living on southern Ontario, Canada. It's getting cold but lots of riding days left yet. The bike is all stock issue with about 1600KM on the meter. The America has had it's first service at the shop on schedule.

Really like the bike so far but I had an anomaly while cruising up north. I was putting along secondary roads at about 90 Kilometers/hour (that's about 55MPH for my friends down south) when the road speed just started to drop off fairly fast.... The engine was running and not revving high as when clutch disengaged. I tweaked the throttle up and down, tried a downshift, when clutch disengaged engine could be revved high as expected, re-engaged clutch but still no power to drive the bike.

Pulled off onto dirt shoulder of road and shut the bike down. It smelled HOT but no indicator lights had been on. Sat for a few minutes to look around for issues and then restarted bike. Took off and all seemed well. Has a second incident 30 minutes later. Same shutdown start-up cured the issue. Drove the next 100KM to destination and returned a couple days leter over the same 250KM route. No further issues noted.

ANY IDEAS???? Can't find any similar reports on the internet but the keywords are hard to get a good fix on

Thanks,

PEDRO · 11-16-2009, 04:31 PM

Hi there, I had a different, but similar, problem with my 2009 Speedy (EFI) but it was a straight dying of the engine on changing gear. After the second time (@ 750 miles), I put it into my local dealer, under warrantee, and they could find no stored fault codes but did raise the idle. After 2 more occurences I raised the idle again to 1050 rpm ( @1400 miles) (Which according to something I read on here is within the manufactuers range). I'm now @ 2900 miles and no reoccurences. I think your problem could be one of many things and recommend you put it into your local dealer, as I'm guessing it is within warrantee still, so that they can check for stored fault codes.

PS. I'm flying on Tuesday over the pond to work in Toronto for a few days, is the Triumph dealer in Toronto worth a visit ??

CaptainAmerica · 11-16-2009, 06:32 PM

Thanks for the note Pedro. The bike is on warranty and I do intend to get it to the dealer this week. Hopefully there are come codes. I like to do my homework on the internet beforehand so that's why I am digging for similar situations and ideas.

When you mentioned the pond you weren't kidding - I was initially thinking Lake Ontario or the Niagara River, what we call the Ditch.

As for Triumph in Toronto, I use GPBikes in Ajax, east of the city. http://www.gpbikes.com/ They have a pretty good shop but it's quite a ways from downtown.
The downtown dealer would be Rev Cycles. I have no been to their shop. http://www.ducatitoronto.com/

PEDRO · 11-17-2009, 07:17 AM

Thanks very much for the info, I've got a day spare before I fly out so I may pop into Rev Cycles when downtown.

I'm sure someone on here may be able to help with your problem but, either way, let us know how your problem is sorted out.

Gregger · 11-17-2009, 10:06 PM

Hey Captain....welcome to the forums.

It sure sounds like you have a vent problem with the bike. Since your bike is an EFI model, I'm not sure if the gas tank vents like the carbed versions. I would imagine so. The next time it happens, try cracking the gas cap open to see if that helps. For the carbed versions, typical vent problems are a pinched vent line from the bottom of the fuel tank to behind the engine on the left side. Also a plugged or sticking tipover valve situated in the above vent line, right behind the engine has caused vent problems. The only other item that could be causing a problem is a fuel pump starting to fail. A plugged fuel filter would have a problem all the time and not intermittant like yours.

Check the vent first, it's the easiest.

CaptainAmerica · 11-23-2009, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gregger

Hey Captain....welcome to the forums.

It sure sounds like you have a vent problem with the bike. Since your bike is an EFI model, I'm not sure if the gas tank vents like the carbed versions. I would imagine so. The next time it happens, try cracking the gas cap open to see if that helps. For the carbed versions, typical vent problems are a pinched vent line from the bottom of the fuel tank to behind the engine on the left side. Also a plugged or sticking tipover valve situated in the above vent line, right behind the engine has caused vent problems. The only other item that could be causing a problem is a fuel pump starting to fail. A plugged fuel filter would have a problem all the time and not intermittant like yours.

Check the vent first, it's the easiest.

Thanks for the tip Gregger. Others suggested bad gas which could have been my problem. It was discount fuel at the time.

The dealer suggested it could have been a "False Neutral" situation. They took a test drive and said they experienced just such a thing so they adjusted linkage. Apparently if the shift linkage isn't set up just right the gearbox doesn't lock into 5th properly and with something like a bump on the road there is a tenancy to drop out of 5th and into a dead spot with no drive. This could have been my situation as well. When the problem occurred my priority was to get out of traffic off the road while I was testing for what the problem was. I know I was downshifting (rider training kicked in) and pulling off the road so maybe my brain wasn't trying to get moving and only saying get off the road.

No trouble sense so who knows:
- vent issue
- bad gas
- false neutral

Cheers!
The Captain...CaptainAmerica that is.

PEDRO · 11-26-2009, 09:51 AM

Well that is good news, hope that the problem is sorted for good, thanks for letting us know.

Think I brought the bad UK foggy and drizzlly weather with me ..........!!