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Old 09-06-2009, 06:16 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi,

As the title says, i am selling my beloved perfect black street triple and looking to get something that is more pillion friendly. My missus gets real unformtable on the striple even after a trip the local beach. Sadly for me this is the reason it has to go. :-(.

My Question is: has anybody come from the sp3/st3/daytona to a cruiser. if yes - was it a dissapointment?

I am looking for comfort but still want as much power as possible. Closely looking at the America or speed master - 2010 model.

How is the cornering on the america and what top speed do you guys achieve?
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Old 09-06-2009, 07:57 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Hi Jambo good to see your going to stay with the empire but these mid size cruisers are no sports bike they are probably the best handling cruiser on the market and do hold their own on the road but over the 160kmh mark you are ringing their necks once you do easy bits change cans snorkle removal k&n filter re map your getting to about 70 ggs
hope this helps still smiling every time i ride mine Crankry
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Old 09-06-2009, 10:57 AM   #3 (permalink)
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What are you willing to invest ?

It really depends on how much you're willing to invest. You can go with a T-Bird and have a larger machine with more hp if you're looking for something like that, or you can get a Speedy or America and invest in some head work, carbs, cam and shocks and have some great hp, good handling and the great looks of these bikes. If you check the dyno threads you'll see where you can get these beasties up to 90 - 100 hp reliably if you're willing to invest the money. And you would still have less invested than buying a new T-Bird.
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Old 09-06-2009, 11:04 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I was the opposite...

I have a 2007 America and recently supplemented my collection with a 2009 Striple R. I love them because they are both different kinds of rides, one doesn't really "replace" the other. The cruiser was my first motorcycle, and with saddlebags and a tail bag it's a lot of fun to take the wife on trips. It's by no means a rocket, but sometimes you when you want to take a "leisurely" ride it's absolutely perfect.

The Striple R definitely out accelerates, out turns, and out brakes the America, but then again that's not what the America is designed for.

If you're looking to go fast with a pillion, then I'd have the second the recommendations to look at the T-Bird. Or you could take a look at the sport touring family of motorbikes, perhaps a Sprint? I know for a fact that my brother-in-law took his Kawi Concourse 14 to Vegas and his fiancee fell asleep on the back during the ride...

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Old 09-06-2009, 11:30 AM   #5 (permalink)
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hi

Not quite the same but I have just gone from a ZZr1200 to an 09 Speedmaster. It all depends on what you want to do...If you want to scream around everywhere then it is probably not the bike for you. Having said that, it is still a fairly powerfull bike; it accelerates well, goes round corners way better than the ZZr, top end i'm not sure of as i'm running mine in at mo but does around 85mph at just under 5.5k...redline is at 7.5k. The seat is like an armchair compared to the ZZr, the centre of gravity is a lot lower which makes it feel lighter than it is, and also the seat height is nice and low.

I am extremely happy with mine although I have only done 150 miles on it (picked it up this week).

The 2 bikes dont compare when just looking at the specs; half the hp, half the torque, way less top-end and slower acceleration but In my opinion the speedmaster is the better bike at legal and sensible(ish) illegal speeds. The ZZr could do 165mph.....looks great on paper but when would you actually use it ?

I was a bit wary about going to a "cruiser" but I have to say I have been very pleasantly suprised (even more so when i realised it cornered better than the ZZr)

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Old 09-06-2009, 02:56 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I owned a Goldwing for about 5 years and rode with club that was mostly Goldwings. The women would frequently fall asleep on back of the bikes. After a few hours of riding you could watch their helmets begin to drop forward, then bonk, when their helmets hit their drivers helmet. The passenger seat on a Goldwing is very comfortable and protective, and with them having nothing to do but listen to music and look at the scenery I can understand why they would doze off.
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Old 09-06-2009, 05:33 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Striple to America

Have ridded sports bikes in the past, now a proud owner of 2007 T.B.A.
You can't really compare the two, totally differant riding style.
For a cruiser, the America is a fantastic handling machine I believe it will out handle any of the competition in it's class, but its not going to look at a sports machine.
As far as comfort for pillion rider, I'm told the pillion pad is very good, anyone I've ever had on the back has never complained anyway.
You will be able to cruise along all day at 75+ two up no problem.
As for being dissapointed I really dont think you will be , but only you can truly decide that for yourself.

P.S. you'll still be able to scratch in the twisties.
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Old 09-06-2009, 08:32 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I jumped off a speedtriple to a 08 america and couldnt be happier . it took all of 10 mins of riding to get used to it ( except lack of power )
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Old 09-07-2009, 01:08 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Thanks for the replies guys, i will be going on holiday in a few weeks and when i return, hopefully the 2010 models will start popping up around at the local dealers so i can get a bit of a taste and a test ride on one of these dream machines!!..

I am happy to hear that it corner's well :-) and basically at the end of a day i just want to feel a bit of pull when climbing up the twisties. Nothing worse than running out of revs and having to drop back 2nd

Hopefully i can talk the missus into getting a 2010 street tripleR as well for commuting to work.

Are there any commuters out there on the speedmaster/america ?
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Old 09-08-2009, 12:41 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Yup...

...I used to commute 70 miles daily on my America (before I moved closer to work). Ran like a clock, even with my 'tinkering'. I now use my StripleR for commuting, but that's just cause it's newer and I already have 18000 miles on the America. Especially with saddlebags, it's a great daily rider.

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