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02-29-2008
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Minitwins
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 15
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YSS or IKON....weigh in please.
Replacing the shocks. IKON performance 7614 shocks or YSS Z302TRL? Less than $50 difference. Heard good things about both, but I understand the YSS are MUCH more adjustable. Not even sure I need that, and don't want to get in over my head with TOO much adjustability...anyone anticipate this will be a problem?
Let me know your opinions.
Thanks,
Spellbound
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02-29-2008
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Formula Extreme Favorite Bike: Triumph
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Murrieta
Posts: 556 Other Motorcycle: 72' CB350 Extra Motorcycle: 79' CB650
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I went for the Icons for one reason, well two.
One: I like Brent, hes a good guy and a pleasure to do business with, not saying the other people are not, just have done business with Brent and he has always pulled though for me.
Two: I would loose sleep at night with to many options for adjustment, hell! I would be a mess so I went with the Icons.
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02-29-2008
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Site Supporter Formula Extreme Favorite Bike: 06 Bonneville Black
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: The @$$ crack of the world!
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I must say that I agree with the simple approuch. I always tend to lean toward the more elabrate things, but end up finding a good setting and leaving this that way. I would say that you most likely are like most people... "This is a good setting" and then not touch it for a long time. For that alone, I would go with the Ikons. Not that I dont think the YSS ones are good, just that I wouldn't even use all of it and it would be like buy a plain ticket and not intending to board.
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03-01-2008
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Powerbike
Join Date: Jul 2007
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I'm not exactly sure what some think might happen if they have their shocks adjusted wrong. I don't think it will pitch you off the bike or send you into an uncontrollable spin. Either the bike will be too stiff or too soft.
Adjusting the shocks is no more difficult than adjusting your mirrors. You simply turn a knob one way, or the other. Start at the middle of the adjustment range and work from there. There is no right or wrong... only what you like best.
/Mike
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03-01-2008
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Formula Extreme Favorite Bike: Triumph
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Location: Murrieta
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I agree bro, but like I said with too many options I personally tend to freak out by thinking there may be a BETTER setting - In other words I would be pre-occupied with what is going on in the rear than riding. lol
For the "IT"/Tech guy, the Icons would be to boring and for the racers, YSS is what I would run if I were a racer.
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03-02-2008
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World SuperBike
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Baltimore, Maryland, USA
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Yes, it might be like carburetor settings.
I did like Whitehurst, bought the Ikon 7610s from NewBonneville because they seemed simple and straightforward and most reports on them are positive. Also, they're reasonably priced. I like them, and had no problems with wrong-size bushings and such, they just bolted on and I was finished.
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2005 Bonneville Blue 790cc, AI removed, Staintunes, Unifilter, no snorkel, 120/40/Thrux needle/1 shim/3 turns, fly screen, tacho, D9 gauge panel, center stand, Ikon 7610s, Hagon fork springs, gaiters, Pirelli Sport Demons, 3 seats.
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03-02-2008
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Minitwins
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 15
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YSS it is.
Mike,
You have convinced me. Plus I pretty much made up my mind the other day. I tried to call you on Friday but missed you. I wanted to ask a couple of additional questions. Has ANYONE verified fitment of the SUPERBRACE on the Thruxton yet? Also, how does the 6 pot caliper you have now compare to the Beringer 6 pot? I understand the Beringer really needs a master cylinder with a little more stroke, how about the one you have?
BTW, I was the one that sent you the email about the shorter shock length and TT Pipes late last week.
Sorry about all of the questions, but I am about to drop a chunk of change and just want to make sure my bases are covered.
Thanks,
Spellbound
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03-02-2008
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Powerbike
Join Date: Jul 2007
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I have that affect on people.
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I tried to call you on Friday but missed you.
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So sorry, I was battling a nasty cold all week long.
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Has ANYONE verified fitment of the SUPERBRACE on the Thruxton yet?
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Yes. Because the ribbed fender sits a little lower than a std/T100 fender, the brace clears the raised rib.
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Also, how does the 6 pot caliper you have now compare to the Beringer 6 pot? I understand the Beringer really needs a master cylinder with a little more stroke, how about the one you have?
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I spoke with the Beringers at a tradeshow recently. Lovely people. My understanding is that their caliper is a 4-pot, not six. I may be wrong about that. I've rided a few Beringer-equipped bikes and I can not fault their brakes at all. I do not recall if there were aftermarket master cylinders installed. I would think I would have noticed it, or maybe the owners used a Rocket III cylinder.
The Pretech works perfectly with the stock master cylinder. There is a common misconception that a larger caliper (read; more pistons) needs a larger master cylinder. Not necessarily true... and certainly not so in Pretech's case. Where you to convert to a twin rotor/caliper like as done on Harley's, then yes, a larger capacity master cylinder would be needed.
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Sorry about all of the questions, but I am about to drop a chunk of change and just want to make sure my bases are covered.
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Never a problem and always a good idea to do so.
/Mike
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03-04-2008
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Super Sidecars
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Lebanon, VA
Posts: 47
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one vote for YSS
I just got back from my first AHRMA road race and while I have no experience with Ikon shocks I can confirm the YSS do their job well. I fought alittle with the supplied bushings to get the shocks installed, and I had to set the sag of course, but the preset compression and rebound settings worked fine. One of the reasons I bought the adjustable shocks is that it's time I learned how to set a pair of shocks up. I'm looking forward to my next track day and the opportunity to experiment.
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03-07-2008
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SuperSport Favorite Bike: Modified 2005 T100
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Rushden, Northamptonshire, England
Posts: 1,199 Other Motorcycle: 1994 CB750
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'I don't think it will pitch you off the bike or send you into an uncontrollable spin'
It will if you have my knackered hagon classics, one of em ramdonly clicks back into default setting so they are in different preloads all the time, plus it is bent slightly at the top after a year of hard riding, currnently got the stock ones back on....ewwww!
I think those things are only just better than stock, im looking into some ikon 7610's for my T100, still pondering whether to get thrux length or not....
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